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Scholar
#51 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 11:00 AM
TS2 woohoo places: bed, hot tub, changing booth, car (NL), photo booth (NL), elevator (OfB), tent (BV), hammock (BV), sauna (BV), pirate ship (BV), walk-in closet (AL), helicopter (AL). Total = 12

TS3 woohoo places: bed, various rabbit holes during a tour, tent (WA), sarcophagous (WA), time machine (AMB), hot tub (LN), elevator (LN), actor trailer (LN), shower (GEN), treehouse (GEN), haystack (Pets), photo booth (SHT), box of mystery (SHT), magical wardrobe (SPN), fairy house (SPN), gypsy caravan (SPN), igloo (SSN), leaf pile (SSN), all-in-one bathroom (IP), underwater cave (IP), sauna (store), hot air balloon (store). Total = 20, plus two more locations from the store. The wikia has murphy bed as separate from the regular bed, but I didn't count that as a separate one.
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Top Secret Researcher
#52 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 11:29 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
Teen pregnant with alien baby? good story idea, if handled well.


And there you have one of the very few situations where I might conceivably use it as a storyline, albeit probably still with a few reservations: A male teenager becomes pregnant after being abducted by aliens as part of an absurd parody of the usual cliched teen pregnancy storyline. Although I'd still be more likely to make fun of that trend without actually impregnating anyone- if I ever write anything involving teenage sims, I'm thinking there'd probably be a moment in which a confused teenage girl breaks the fourth wall and says something along the lines of "why does everyone assume I've never heard of the Pill?"

As for the people who mentioned that in some cases it's an indirect way of asking for teenagers to be allowed to WooHoo, you're probably right, and that's at least not totally objectionable. Though such mods are still used in ways I find disconcerting from time to time- the other reasonably common story trend I find uncomfortable to see is teen/adult romance, which again made me wary of WooHooer for a while and definitely isn't going to be in any base game in the series. It's not as common as teen pregnancy, thankfully, but it does crop up occasionally, and it's often creepy to me. Particularly when it's not treated as anything questionable or negative.
Scholar
#53 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 11:41 AM
But it's damn funny if the "director" of said story is using AwesomeMod to allow teen/adult romance without being aware of all of its "features". Pescado has a wicked sense of humour.

20 places to woohoo in Sims 3? Wow, those are a some horny little pixels!
Test Subject
#54 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 11:48 AM
I think there should be no blurs and make them talk English for once and add every thing so there dose not need to be mods but still leave a mod site and how the heack do I mod the sims 3 I tried everything and my computer broke down they should put the thing to mod the sims 3 on this web site
Scholar
#55 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 12:02 PM
Quote: Originally posted by goswald
I think there should be no blurs and make them talk English for once and add every thing so there dose not need to be mods but still leave a mod site and how the heack do I mod the sims 3 I tried everything and my computer broke down they should put the thing to mod the sims 3 on this web site

Speaking of English...
Instructor
#56 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 12:55 PM
^^My guess is ESL^^

I wasn't aware of them having so many places to woohoo, looks like I still have lots of things to play in my game.

In any case, I would love it if they added the extra details of making out and such of Sims 2 and if they could bring back the House party stuff from Sims 1. I absolutely loved that dance they did when they popped out of the cake and such. How awesome would it be to have that back!

Love does not consist of two people looking at each other, but of looking together in the right direction. - Antoine de Exupery
Field Researcher
#57 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 5:14 PM
I'd love to see some adult stuff, but nothing really extreme. More romantic interactions, more passion between the lovers (like in TS2 - there was nothing really vulgar, that teens should not see; anatomically correct sims (what's wrong with human body? Don't teens have biology lessons at school, where they can see pictures of female and male private parts, and get to know about their functioning? Not that sims should be able to show up naked on public, but blurry squares when they're showering are stupid). Distructive habbits like drinking, taking drugs, smoking, with negative consequences of those (like health prblems, and negative reaction of the others to drunken sims or sims smoking in the presence of kids). Hell, we already have criminal career and Cleptomanic trait, why can't we have sims with addicitons? Gambling (again, with bad consequences - when a sims does it too often, s/he gets wishes to go and gamble constantly, loses a lot of money, gets debts, etc.).
And one thing should be made less extreme - I mean, jealousy. In TS3 jealousy is absurd. And the cheated partner runs to slap the cheater irrespective of the cheated sim's personality (while this should've been restricted to certain traits, like hot-headed, mean, evil, over-emotional; others could simply break up, or (better) get upset and drop the ralationship matter). Also, why can't kids die? It is silly. Kids are even quicker to die, if they're neglected, is child death somehow "worse" than a death of an adult?

An adult EP could be a good idea (bet it should have higher age restriction, of course).
Top Secret Researcher
#58 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 5:32 PM
Quote: Originally posted by SommarBlomma
Also, why can't kids die? It is silly. Kids are even quicker to die, if they're neglected, is child death somehow "worse" than a death of an adult?


This is a common misconception: Children can die in all three games, they just have less ways to die because a lot of potentially-fatal activities are things they can't do. They can't, for instance, be electrocuted by screwing up when trying to fix an appliance because they can't fix appliances in the first place. They can, however, still burn to death, drown and be hit by meteors. Only babies and toddlers are completely invincible.

(Personally, when TS3 miraculously saves babies and toddlers from meteors or fire by teleporting them out of the way I interpret that as the game admitting they should logically be dead and force kill them in whichever way they should have died using Master Controller. I don't like anybody being arbitrarily invincible for no apparent reason in my games either, you're not the only one. TS3 pregnant sims being unable to die is a pet peeve of mine for the same reason, particularly since they were no more or less able to die than anyone else in TS2. I've said it before and I'll say it again: A foetus is not a protective forcefield.)
Instructor
#59 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 7:23 PM
[QUOTE=goswald]I think there should be no blurs and make them talk English for once.

First of all, The Sims is a popular international game, think of how many languages they'd have translate it into for a global market.

Second: The reason it's Similish is because Sims repeat much of what they are talking about, however with images in their plumbob, it looks like they are talking about different topics. Yes there are Similish words for things, but notice they use it towards something in particular, like Noobu= baby.

Also, did you have ever have a doll or toy that said a certain amount of words and sentences? Once you've heard everything they said, the magic goes away, and it gets repetitive. Now as a child you may not care, as an adult it will drive you crazy!

So, Simlish keeps things rather simple for everyone. Anyways, I sometimes think they throw in English words from time to time. I think we all were convinced in Sims 2 that a toddler would yell "Daddy", when they wanted out of their crib!

I've already said the blur should be gone or optional, seeing it's a teen game, and there's nothing there to hide to begin with.
Mad Poster
#60 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 7:33 PM
Quote: Originally posted by MinghamSmith
This is a common misconception: Children can die in all three games, they just have less ways to die because a lot of potentially-fatal activities are things they can't do. They can't, for instance, be electrocuted by screwing up when trying to fix an appliance because they can't fix appliances in the first place. They can, however, still burn to death, drown and be hit by meteors. Only babies and toddlers are completely invincible.

(Personally, when TS3 miraculously saves babies and toddlers from meteors or fire by teleporting them out of the way I interpret that as the game admitting they should logically be dead and force kill them in whichever way they should have died using Master Controller. I don't like anybody being arbitrarily invincible for no apparent reason in my games either, you're not the only one. TS3 pregnant sims being unable to die is a pet peeve of mine for the same reason, particularly since they were no more or less able to die than anyone else in TS2. I've said it before and I'll say it again: A foetus is not a protective forcefield.)


Pregnant Sims can't die in TS3? But they could in TS2! What made EA change that? That's odd. Also, I completely agree with your post!
Top Secret Researcher
#61 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 7:52 PM
Quote: Originally posted by frankie
Pregnant Sims can't die in TS3? But they could in TS2! What made EA change that? That's odd. Also, I completely agree with your post!


I'd say it's another example of EA playing it way too safe after some of the unwarranted controversy surrounding TS2 and removing things that didn't need to be removed. See also: half the other things in this thread.

Also, just to clarify: I'm not specifically aiming to annihilate infants or pregnant sims or whatever here, I just don't like anything being arbitrarily invincible in a game without some kind of in-universe justification. It's immersion-breaking when something that should be just as vulnerable to fire, etc as everything else isn't. I specifically mention fire because that's what made me realise this: In TS2, when fires started you'd often see sims picking up babies and toddlers and moving them away from the flames. I thought that was a good bit of AI... until I realised that they weren't actually in any danger and that in terms of gameplay mechanics the sims carrying them were risking themselves for nothing by going near the fire.

Put simply, if babies and toddlers could die like every other life stage when things go catastrophically wrong, sims autonomously trying to remove them from dangerous situations would look sensible, even heroic. If you make them invincible, the same sims will look like they're wasting their time.
Alchemist
#62 Old 7th Jun 2013 at 8:03 PM
Quote: Originally posted by MinghamSmith

Put simply, if babies and toddlers could die like every other life stage when things go catastrophically wrong, sims autonomously trying to remove them from dangerous situations would look sensible, even heroic. If you make them invincible, the same sims will look like they're wasting their time.


The funny thing is EA story progression regularly kills off babies. I briefly attempted to play a legacy hood with EA's story progression. I used Master controller to manage the town, making Sim marry and breed and such. And I was constantly getting newspaper notifications of neighbors dying of 'starvation', mostly babies. My legacy family's neighbors lost three of their infants to starvation before I gave up and went back to Nraas SP.
But anyway, yeah, the game won't let you kill off babies, but their own story progression is a merciless baby killer.
Mad Poster
#63 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 12:18 AM
Speaking of babies dying: I'm surprised there is no MOD that allows it--I assume it has something to do with the coding. Especially if you're dealing with a old-time hood: in old time babies and children died a LOT, also pregnant women.

I still like my idea: an ADULT version that you would have to be adult to buy! Of course people that really want graphic/bazaar stuff would mod, like they do NOW (and that's another huge issue - if it's wasn't mod-friendly I would never buy it!). No, I don't want the packaged game to have ALL THAT, just the many activities, interactions that are now impossible with a T game.

And yes, I still would like to see a PG game; there is too much stuff in the currant Sims games that I wouldn't want my 10 year old to play with! And I would think that would sell well.

Stand up, speak out. Just not to me..
Theorist
#64 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 6:12 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Cheran
My biggest concern is, how do give human males birth. Women are constructed this way, with a wide portal, to be totally abstract. Men don't have this wide portal... only this tiny little one...
I know, sims spin and the baby fells in their arms, but the baby grows inside of their body... somehow the baby has to got out of there. How do you explain that to your kids? :D


Well... if you REALLY want to technical about the whole thing - its simple. Cesarean section. Since we have the option to have the babies in hospital a C-Section wouldn't really be out of the question. I mean, do we REALLY want a mental image of a male sim trying to push the baby thru his urethra? Sounds awfully painful.

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Lab Assistant
#65 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 6:54 AM
I dislike the idea of an adult version of the sims. It sounds like a porn-fest and probably wouldn't sell very well.

Plus, the Sims isn't meant to be super realistic, just a fun simulation game.
Mad Poster
#66 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 5:45 PM
So, what really is the difference between MTV's "Teen Mom" that has the television version of the T-rating, rated TV-14, versus a T-rated game? The same goes for alcohol and drug content, both of which are featured in teen-related media. Not that I care whether or not said content would ever be in the game, since it's not my style of gameplay, but I really am just curious. I don't buy the excuse that it would encourage teens to participate in said activities because the same thing can be said about teen-heavy TV shows and movies. I mean, in essence, the T rating for games is what the TV-14 rating is to TV shows and what the PG-13 rating is to movies. The Sims isn't a children's franchise, after all. And any teen out there looking to get pregnant just to mimic her Sim life seriously needs to get her head examined.

Besides, having teen pregnancy in the game can compliment the reality show EP theme from the surveys. Thus, your teen Sim can be spammed with "get pregnant" wishes, which could eventually spawn "be on TV" wishes.
Alchemist
#67 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 5:54 PM
I've always wondered why we need a censor blur over Sims that have the same lack of details as a Barbie doll that's rated for ages 3 and up.
One Minute Ninja'd
#68 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 6:10 PM
Quote: Originally posted by calisims
I've always wondered why we need a censor blur over Sims that have the same lack of details as a Barbie doll that's rated for ages 3 and up.


Because Barbie is sold with clothes on. It's only if you, or your 3 year old, choose to undress her that you discover the lack of attention to detail. I'm sure if they ever released a "Barbie Undressed" box set, the townsfolk would burn ToysRUs to the ground. Even though the first thing the little tykes do is strip them down as soon as they get 'em home.
And all the maladies of the world burst forth from Pandora's cooch
#69 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 6:21 PM
Quote: Originally posted by frankie
So, what really is the difference between MTV's "Teen Mom" that has the television version of the T-rating, rated TV-14, versus a T-rated game? The same goes for alcohol and drug content, both of which are featured in teen-related media. Not that I care whether or not said content would ever be in the game, since it's not my style of gameplay, but I really am just curious. I don't buy the excuse that it would encourage teens to participate in said activities because the same thing can be said about teen-heavy TV shows and movies. I mean, in essence, the T rating for games is what the TV-14 rating is to TV shows and what the PG-13 rating is to movies. The Sims isn't a children's franchise, after all. And any teen out there looking to get pregnant just to mimic her Sim life seriously needs to get her head examined.

Besides, having teen pregnancy in the game can compliment the reality show EP theme from the surveys. Thus, your teen Sim can be spammed with "get pregnant" wishes, which could eventually spawn "be on TV" wishes.
the major difference, is that "Teen Mom" doesn't show that act that made them pregnant in the first place. The game would (a cartoony, wacky version of it, at least). But also, movies and tv shows have a different ratings system than games do. Plus, while some countries have a more relaxed attitude towards teen sexuality, others do not. EA wants to sell the game to as wide a base as possible. They have to skirt certain issues carefully to make them as 'non-offensive' as possible while still including them. That's why sims vanish under a blanket when they woohoo, we still have the blur over a barbie crotch, and alcohol is called nectar instead of wine or beer.

The ESRB has very clear distinctions over what it considered "teen" rating versus "mature" or others. The Sims works around these somewhat, but if they were more blatant, the "teen" rating would be removed, pushing it into "mature" territory. While this may mean a more realistic game, it also would mean diminished sales. There are certain retailers who would not even stock a game with a mature rating. Other retailers would require parental permission to purchase. There are even a few countries that would ban it outright. It would just be a big headache, so the developers avoid the whole thing entirely. And I can't say I blame them. Imagine if they did make an EP around adult fare. And then some innocent little grandma picks it up for Little Timmy because it says "The Sims". The stink that would be raised after peoples claims of "warping our poor innocent children's minds" wouldn't be the reaction they were going for, particularly if they would want to change the public image they have already.
Mad Poster
#70 Old 8th Jun 2013 at 10:59 PM
Quote: Originally posted by frankie
Besides, having teen pregnancy in the game can compliment the reality show EP theme from the surveys. Thus, your teen Sim can be spammed with "get pregnant" wishes, which could eventually spawn "be on TV" wishes.



They could get a pregnancy scare every once in a while just to keepthings realistic. Most teens who get pregnant don't actually plan it or wish it.


Quote: Originally posted by eskie227
Because Barbie is sold with clothes on. It's only if you, or your 3 year old, choose to undress her that you discover the lack of attention to detail. I'm sure if they ever released a "Barbie Undressed" box set, the townsfolk would burn ToysRUs to the ground. Even though the first thing the little tykes do is strip them down as soon as they get 'em home.



Sims don't parade around in the game naked. The only time they are naked is when they streak or enter the shower. If Barbie creators were so concerned with it's nakedness they could have painted full set of undergarments on her.
And all the maladies of the world burst forth from Pandora's cooch
#71 Old 9th Jun 2013 at 5:29 AM
Quote: Originally posted by crocobaura

Sims don't parade around in the game naked. The only time they are naked is when they streak or enter the shower.
You and I must be playing very different games....
Mad Poster
#72 Old 9th Jun 2013 at 12:42 PM
Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
You and I must be playing very different games....



Well, you need mods to play a very different game.
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Original Poster
#73 Old 9th Jun 2013 at 5:34 PM
content wise, all the crap they want you to download from the online stores doesnt count for me. Its highly overpriced and they should be ashamed of themselves for charging that much. Makes the infamous horse armor DLC for Oblivion look like a great deal in comparison.

Personly I only got stuff there using free points and bought a few points once to spend on stuff when it was discounted, usually its still overpriced then but not as much. Especially items that allow a new interaction is rediculously overpriced, especially since most of it actually was in previous games through expansions.

Most sickening part is even that you need to download complete neighbourhoods just to get a single premium item because you cant get it otherwise.

I like to see gambling in the game, and not through their ****************************** online **** store.
Scholar
#74 Old 9th Jun 2013 at 6:55 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Vinathi
I dislike the idea of an adult version of the sims. It sounds like a porn-fest and probably wouldn't sell very well.

Plus, the Sims isn't meant to be super realistic, just a fun simulation game.


The Sims Porn-fest would sell like crazy of course, you would just have trouble finding people who actually (admit that they) bought it
But I agree with the rest of your comment though, I also would like to keep the Sims cartoony and goofy.
Field Researcher
#75 Old 9th Jun 2013 at 8:05 PM Last edited by ldms510 : 11th Jun 2013 at 3:01 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by frankie
Besides, having teen pregnancy in the game can compliment the reality show EP theme from the surveys. Thus, your teen Sim can be spammed with "get pregnant" wishes, which could eventually spawn "be on TV" wishes.

Perhaps this could be the (not so) Adult theme. If it had women cat-fighting over a man or men fist-fighting over a woman in the street, paternal question marks for babies with two or more options as possible fathers (could be part of the game trying to figure out which one), couples arguing constantly, and children turning into bad seeds for either the above reasons or more, I would so buy that ep!

Think about it. You could create your own reality tv show to watch unfurl without the dirty feeling you get after remembering that it's real people's lives shaped and displayed for all the world to see.

Lighten up, people. It was a joke.
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