Anyone read term and conditions? Why would Sims4forums steal all the stuff from ModTheSims? That's so illegal!
Does the site owner know about this problem?
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I'm sure this is a legal requirement, but would we really have to include a phone number and address with the notice? It's not like our addresses are going to be a bunch of corporate headquarters with a ton of state-of-the-art security. I don't have any Sims 4 content, but if I did and it was on there, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable sending my phone number and address to someone I don't know, especially over the internet.

It's a company. Don't you do online shopping?

Dunno what "bunch of corporate headquarters" you expect, but Bluehost are a completely normal web host. There's nothing unusual about them. What they're asking for -- providing a means to get in touch with you -- is likely a lot less data than your own IP has about you.

He does give credit to whoever made them at the bottom of the posts/threads.
The only paid content is 18+ content, to ensure it stays 18+.
The rest of the content is FREE. He is NOT making money off your mods!

I'm not saying what he's done is right, but there have been reasons.

Nobody needs to sell adult content "just to make sure it's 18+", that's just one of the bullshit justifications he's feeding to his members (you are one of them, correct?). Would there be so many free adult CC sites otherwise? I would recommend a Google search.

Also *his* reasons are completely irrelevant here. It's the creators' decision what happens with their content.

nahh, my creation is not even in the website but, i do feel not good when my creation on a paysite, that have a lot of advertising all over it, so technically every content on that website give money to him either by membership or not as long as its in his website, its just my opinion tho

Meline - it doesn't matter if everything besides the 18+ content is free or not. Besides what plasticbox said about it being the creator's decision what happens with their content, there's the fact that it seems like he was using the content from here (and other places like tumblr) to build up a downloads area and "lure people in".

askurei - Um, MTS has ads. Then again, MTS doesn't ask people to pay to be members to download anything and offer them "perks" for doing so.

MTS do have ads but not much, only the download pages and front pages, one flash ads, i can't seem to find something sticking to my eye all the time, and can't seem to find any banner tho.... will keep looking

I'm really not attempting to defend him, and I understand you guys completely and IMO you have every right to be upset (and ask him to take it down).
I was only saying that because I read a post somewhere in this thread that said he was making people pay for all the mods that were posted on the site.
That is not the case.
Most forums have some sort of membership available for purchase to help keep the site up.
Reading through this thread I saw a lot of people writing him off as some asshole who was trying to make money off other peoples creations, I just felt I had to say that's not at all what he's been doing.

mustluvcatz - You are very right in saying that it was used to 'lure people in', at least, that's what I assume to main purpose was. But also to offer the members who frequent there the possibility of uploading it on it's own site. Was that right? No, it really isn't.
He did give credit to those who created it, but if you ask me he should've provided a link to the direct download (and the original place it was uploaded) instead of hosting it himself.

From what I've gathered though, he is going to stop this immediately. Though I've not spoken to him directly, so please take what I say with a grain of salt. It is but my interpretation of things.

Citation needed.

As far as I'm aware, nobody in this thread claimed he was charging for their downloads.

The main issues seem to be that he copied site content, downloads, and is hotlinking without permission, that he failed to give credit in many cases (he added that in over time, but there are still downloads completely uncredited -- see here for example), that he even refused to remove files when asked to (see here), that he posted here with a sockpuppet account (see here) trying to scare people away from filing a DMCA and that by now he still hasn't removed any site content except for where the creators filed a DMCA right away. With "site content" I mean entire pages that are blatantly copied and pasted from mts, including pictures and hotlinks and all (maybe also from other sites, can't tell since I'm less familiar with those). All the while he is still trying to bullshit his own members into believing that *we* have an issue with "competition", when the whole issue isn't about competition but about blatant plagiarism and complete disregard of the actual creators.

I think that is what I personally understood was meant by this (posted on the homepage) :

"Additionally, the site is monetized allowing the forum owner to profit from these works that have been stolen from around the web and hosted without permission."

Along with some other money-based allegations here and there I overgeneralized. Apologies.

Is OK. I hope everybody knows to make a difference between the site owner and people like you who are just members.

Also, I edited while you posted (above).

I really can't defend him on anything he's done in regards to this particular mess.
We don't speak nearly enough for me to be really in the know-how of what's going on, I wish I did, and that I could be of any help >.<
I just wanted to voice my pov on it, and I really hope he sorts it out soon.

Doesn't matter if he is making money off them or not, he is redistributing them without the authors consent. Crediting the original author/source website doesn't make it right, or legal

Honestly? I can't fathom anyone jumping to this guys defense.
He is NOT the victim with good intentions he claims to be. Anyone who thinks he is should do themselves a favor, google him, and have their minds blown.
Meline, did I understand correctly you're a registered member on his site? Because in that case you may or may not have been around for his little "giveaway" and how that ended up. If not, I advise you search for it (its on his own forums) and decide for yourself what to think about it. I can only tell you it made my stomach turn. And that is one story. Of many.

And surprise surprise, my content is STILL on sims4forums. Why am I not surprised? One more hour to go ...

Just found this on S4F:





Lies? Seriously? And how on earth can we be threatened by a site that doesn't post their own stuff? The two sites are completely different things

LOL @ those posts. We can't even be "threatened" by any site that does post their own stuff, because I sincerely hope that nobody here believes in any of that "competition" nonsense in the first place. otherwise, how come that so many creators and staff members are running their own sites, blogs and simblrs alongside? Do they all compete with .. themselves?

Competition from other sites is beneficial. It encourages and inspires other creators.

Ugh, I'm reading over this post from TheSims4Forum and...Ugh. Just because you give them half arsed credits doesn't mean that it's okay to post other people's creations! And to view the spoiler, you have to login or register. What.

What I don't like is the way that the members are twisting MTS members' words around. People here said that they didn't like the way there was a membership, but the people over there are saying that we claimed that you had to pay for everything! Preposterous.

Oh, and we're a third party website. Like they're not.

Does anyone know what that spoiler I mentioned says?

ETA: Um, that came off as more aggressive than I hoped. Whoops

He seems to rely on his own members being incapable of using Google

You are a moderator on that asshole forum, so your opinion is not objective.

mod edit: No reason to be rude.

As the people dealing with commertials say, "all publicity is good publicity", deliver your dmca and get over it I say. Don't give him/her higher rating.

@ plasticbox: I'd wager it's more that he trusts they believe his little act (which, I have to admit, is not half bad. Everybody sympathizes with the guy who claims to have been curb stomped) - which they do. Can't even blame them. I'm a trusting person by nature, myself - I've only had the doubtful privilege of having learned my lesson early on and fast

As to the "MTS is obviously feeling threatened" crap ...

Aaand DMCA is out.

Ughhh I posted saying that it wasn't fair to copy the mods and stuff, blah blah blah and now a VIP contacted me thinking I was a creator from MTS and saying that they could Take down my content and apologizing. Ugh, this is embarrassing. Worst still, he was really polite and civil about it. Ugh, how am I supposed to say that I'm not a creator. So embarrassing