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Old Yesterday, 9:19 PM DefaultDid Maxis get the Pleasure Sims aspiration all wrong? #1
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I know with Freetime the Sims came with an added second aspiration, I personally have always felt that the Pleasure Sims may have been category wrong, In the NightLife prima guide the Pleasure Sims is said to be a cross or overlaps slightly and superficially between a Romance and Popularity Sims, the Pleasure Sims do hunger for amorous activity but not as exclusively like Popularity Sims.

Pleasure do desire a social circle of friends but not everyone in town like the Popularity Sims, Pleasure crave is the kinds of things downtown offers if those things are located at his home lot or neighborhood base.Or college he's fine with it as long as he or she can dates, outings, dining, fast cars, dancing at a Sims club or behind a DJ booth. His fear is a bad dates or social interactions rejections.

I notice Pleasure Sims is not lazy when it comes to working a career only because the Simoleon / Money in his pocket ( lol ) let him pay his bills and buy the things that bring him pleasure and go out on the town and drink until he fall out ( this is possible with a mod. ) One of the aspiration that work well with a pleasure Sims is Fortune Sims because they both want things,but the Fortune Sims is just too greedy with their wants I think.

Now here why I think Maxis may have the Pleasure Sims aspiration a bit wrong from my own game experience and playing different Pleasure Sims,
I have found they have the mind set more of a Family Sims their "bubble mind" is always showing the icon for a baby want, along with wanting to be engage this is over and over day to day sometime.

It's always on their mind from my own personal experience with the pleasure Sims that I love playing. I find Pleasure Sims to be somewhat of a mystery but I do think they should have been more overlay with a Family Sims. Because of their desire for a baby or to be engage constantly in their "bubbles", I think Maxis while creating the Pleasure Sims aspiration may have made a bit of a boo, boo. What your opinion please share ? Thanks

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Old Yesterday, 9:34 PM #2
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This is not something I've ever noticed happening.

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Old Yesterday, 10:06 PM #3
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Never noticed them having baby/engagement wants, mostly they just seem to want to change into their PJs and jump on the sofa in my experience

I find my pleasure sims the hardest to please, because they never seem to roll BIG wants. Usually they want the smaller things. So I rarely ever have a full pleasure sim, usually they'll have a secondary aspiration that steers their pleasure - such as popularity steering them to make countless friends, or fortune steering them to spend lavishly on TVs and Stereos. So maybe I just don't really notice pleasure wants much.

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Old Yesterday, 10:36 PM #4
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She's not talking about wants, she's talking about thought bubbles. Her Pleasure sims produce thought bubbles appropriate to Family sims, rather than to Pleasure sims.

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Old Yesterday, 10:41 PM #5
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Oh. I've never really noticed that either then I guess. Though I don't really pay much attention to their thought bubbles a lot of the time.

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Old Yesterday, 10:45 PM #6
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I think thoughts and talk bubbles might be more about what happens in your game. Like my Angela Pleasant's thought bubbles wouldn't necessarily be the same as your Angela's thought bubbles, you know? I think it has to do with environment and current events. That said, I honestly don't spend much time looking at my sims' thought bubbles so I can't say for sure.

I will agree that my Pleasure sims rarely roll wants for babies. Engagement and marriage wants? Sure, especially if they are on a date--but then, you can also trick Romance sims into marriage that way. But Pleasure sims actually wanting a baby is a little rare in my game. To me, Pleasure sims are all about lack of responsibility and just having fun and I see them as the polar opposite of family sims. Sure, they will do well in a career and some can be career driven--but so can any other sim except maybe a Grilled Cheese sim.

No, I think the mistake Maxis made with Pleasure sims is giving them so many career related LTWs. That was just lazy and not really true to them. They're the only ones who roll wants to stay home and change into their pjs. I don't really see them as the types to want to top a career all the time. With later EPs they could've really expanded their LTW selection, too, and given them wants to travel, collect mementos, own vacation homes, master several hobbies, or win X amount of contests, find a genie lamp, Sell X amount of masterpieces or best sellers, etc. So many things woulda been better than just top X career and the date wants.

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Old Yesterday, 11:05 PM #7
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IMO, Pleasure Sims make the best parents precisely for this reason. Once they have kids, they actually want to engage with them, have fun with them. Probably because they're just big kids themselves. While Family Sims may roll up the wants to do this, in my experience, they won't often do so autonomously, and their wants tend more toward teaching them toddler skills and then, when they're older, getting them into private school and acquiring college scholarships. Meh. It feels like more of a desire for status and bragging rights with other parents to me than a genuine interest in the kids themselves. Pleasure Sims are more fun and their interest seems more genuine to me. They want to play with their kids and seem magnetically attracted to them; I have ones that will spend all day playing peek-a-boo with their toddlers, if left to their own devices. I have to drag Pleasure Sims away from their kids sometimes.

IMO, the best parents, if you do secondary aspirations, are Pleasure/Knowledge Sims or Knowledge/Pleasure. Pleasure wants to interact with the kids; Knowledge wants to teach them stuff. Ben Long is Knowledge/Pleasure in my game, and he loves, loves, loves his spawn. Plays with them. Reads to them. Loves teaching them their toddler skills when they're that age. Tucks them into bed every night. Doesn't really care if the kids don't want to go to college if the kids don't want to for themselves. That sort of thing. Whereas Family Sims often seem interested only in making more kids and acquiring more bragging rights, not in caring for/interacting with the ones they already have. And they certainly don't care about kids that aren't their own. Pleasure Sims like all kids, whether they're theirs or not. But if you want big families, Family/Pleasure is a good combo. Then you get folks who want 10 kids AND who will actually do things with that horde of spawn.

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Old Yesterday, 11:34 PM #8
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She's not talking about wants, she's talking about thought bubbles. Her Pleasure sims produce thought bubbles appropriate to Family sims, rather than to Pleasure sims.


Yes exactly what you said above hit the nail on it's head. Also the "bubble" is a guide to what the Sims is "Thinking" at the time, I always pay attention to it, sometime it show up in their wants soon or later, but rarely. Pleasure Sims from me noticing them over the years in my game always show a "mind bubble" of a baby icon or engagement ring icon, It has never fail to showing.

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Old Today, 12:11 AM #9
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Most players seem to not like Pleasure sims, I am opposite, I like them enough that I made my simself as pleasure/family. So maybe that is what you also did Simonut, gave them family as secondary.

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Sorry about the two Deleted Posts I was trying something that did not work. It seem the attachment for images have disappear. From what I read in the site question and issues
others have has this problem.

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I thought thought bubbles were just the result of gossip, not necessarily inner hopes and dreams not expressed yet by wants.
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