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Old 14th Oct 2017, 8:25 PM #51
simmer22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrijzePilion
If everything operated on a donation principle, it'd be a new shade of socialism and it'd be glorious. See: Americans using GoFundMe to pay for their medical bills, crowdfunded games, politics-related petitions et cetera.
And you guys are absolutely right about Patreon and things like that, it's a great and not at all objectionable way to make some money on the side.


Donations is fine. I've got nothing aginst donations. Just keep in mind that it's only a donation if it
A: is voluntary
B: offers no gifts, no special CC, or isn't otherwise a pay item in disguise.

If you have to donate to get a special item, it's a pay item. Don't get tricked into tinking otherwise. There's no difference between "donate to get item X" and "pay to get item X".

If people use sites like Patreon to offer "special downloads" not downloadable for free (maybe unless it's available after a certain time), it's essentially a version of a pay site.
Old 19th Oct 2017, 2:21 PM #52
Halstrom
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Yeah the same Jeweller Add was popping up continually in IE11 before I could click the Save as button. I fixed it by changing to Edge, so maybe try Chrome or something, it seems IE11 is at its use by date. 2- 6 bad certificate errors popped up on every second page of TSR and the "show all content" thing was rampant there.
Old 21st Oct 2017, 10:24 PM #53
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I just found a new blog that I thought might interest folks here.

"Ad-Free Creators United" blog.
https://adfreecc.tumblr.com/

How it works, how to contribute, etc.
https://adfreecc.tumblr.com/post/16...little-idea-ive
Last edited by RoxEllen1965 : 11th Nov 2017 at 10:47 PM. Reason: Removed my signature since it only applies to Sims 2
Old 21st Oct 2017, 10:41 PM #54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simmer22
If you have to donate to get a special item, it's a pay item. Don't get tricked into tinking otherwise. There's no difference between "donate to get item X" and "pay to get item X".
If people use sites like Patreon to offer "special downloads" not downloadable for free (maybe unless it's available after a certain time), it's essentially a version of a pay site.

I think it's acceptable if donation is not part of their "regular" content. If they put out content periodically, as usual, for free, and occasionally add a premium item on the side, as an extra for donators, it isn't really a business model or anything.

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Old 22nd Oct 2017, 3:06 AM #55
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I think it's acceptable if donation is not part of their "regular" content. If they put out content periodically, as usual, for free, and occasionally add a premium item on the side, as an extra for donators, it isn't really a business model or anything.

I didn't mind when Sandy had premium CC only for "donators" because it was a one-time donation to access *all* of them, past and future, and it could be literally *any* amount, even just $1. I definitely didn't feel ripped off. it's those fucking $20 a month to get their premium content packages that's fucking disgusting, and makes me wish EA would crack down on that shit. Just like Youtube won't let you monetise videos that use other people's work.
Old 23rd Oct 2017, 6:31 PM #56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrijzePilion
I think it's acceptable if donation is not part of their "regular" content. If they put out content periodically, as usual, for free, and occasionally add a premium item on the side, as an extra for donators, it isn't really a business model or anything.


I disagree, Patreon is being used for subscriptions because the site is designed to be auto-renewal monthly payments, you actually have to manually turn off payments and this is why some not updated in a year are still getting a few hundreds due to people not turning off payments.

This is why the shift towards the sweet sweet Patreon monies, its a monthly subscription despite everyone pretending it isnt ... for now, I am sure the IRS will eventually turn their attention towards it eventually, death and taxes ...
Old 24th Oct 2017, 2:32 AM #57
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Broke: Paying for CC.

Woke: Torrenting paid CC.

Baroque: Breaking into CC modders' homes and stealing their entire computers.

I'm writing a TV series, yeah. It's a cross between True Detective and Pretty Little Liars.
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