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Field Researcher
#76 Old 31st May 2009 at 3:39 AM
Quote: Originally posted by meggie272
Agreed, danirawr.
I am a fan but I also realise the many flaws in the book and I'm not OBSESSED with it (well, maybe Jacob. Just a little bit!!!) You don't have to be a total Edward worshipper and bad speller to read and enjoy Twilight.
Somewhere on the Internet someone posted a good, well-rounded, non bitchy and well thought out comment about how they didn't like Edward Cullen. They weren't over the top about it, or anything. Someone writes back "omg u r so gay edward culleen - yep, they spelt it like that - is way better than u and always will be ur just a homo".

Argh! *headdesk*


Can you give a link? I'm interested to read it, that someone must be a fangirl/boy/mom or a latent homosexual

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#77 Old 31st May 2009 at 3:33 PM
Sorry Brad, I had a look around but couldn't find the one I was looking for...pretty sure it was on Yahoo Answers. It was ages ago. But there are plenty of examples of obsessive Twilight-ism around. Here are a few - by the way, if anyone from this board posted these, I'm not having a go at you in person, just the fancult you represent -

OMG!! How can you say this!? I am literally in love with Edward. the thing with edward is that he makes bella feel hole again!! It’s a little thing called true love, bella truly loves edward as her one and only but her uncertainty about jacob means she doesn’t love him in the same way, I would become a vampire the second I had the chance for edward. And I mean that.

OOOOH MY GOD! you freak! i <3 edward more than like anyone in anybook or movie EVERRRR! i wish i was bella no joke! and jacob a weirdo!

u all stink edward is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better he is meant 4 bella and if u havent read breaking dawn then dont read this but he is able 2 take a child birth because bella gets pregneant and has a baby but edward has 2 do a c-section 2 get the baby aka renesme out and he does it without sucking anyones blood so ha

OK SERIOUSLY.
I am 13 & I don't act like that!!!!!!!!!!!! What is with them all!?

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#78 Old 31st May 2009 at 9:27 PM
Well, my signature says it all :]

He's nothing too special, everyone freaks out about him. I hate over-obsessers.

Twilight was O.K, but it was written crappy :3

Not gonna bother watching New Moon.

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Field Researcher
#79 Old 1st Jun 2009 at 2:03 AM
Does over-obsession equals poor grammar? Probably
I agree with Lena:][:, Twilight was written crappy, I thought that books are edited before being printed but Twilight has typos or wrong grammars here and there, a lot of it's contents are empty fillers(thank god the movie cuts most of the Edward-obsessing crap), and being a 100+ years old doesn't mean you'll use some old and unnecessary words like Edward, you'll probably adapt yourself and even lose your old speaking habits

New Moon was the worst of the sequel, but who knows, maybe they can make the movie better than the book

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Mad Poster
#80 Old 1st Jun 2009 at 7:56 AM
Well, I watched the official trailer for New Moon today, and I cracked up. I couldn't stop laughing. There were some bits of it which looked so bad, and they added in all the unnecessary parts by the look of it. I hate it when movie makers do that.
On the topic of over-obsessers, I find it so bad when I see people wearing Twilight shirts. Example, there was a girl on my bus today, and she was wearing a shirt that said "Forget being a princess, I want to be a vampire". I shuddered when I saw it, and I don't understand how people can get that obsessed.
Theorist
#81 Old 1st Jun 2009 at 11:40 PM Last edited by BewitchedPrue : 1st Jun 2009 at 11:58 PM.
I don't hate Twilight, but I don't love it. It's not the worst book ever but it is really badly written. I can't stand the way the same words are repeated over and over, like chagrin. How many people can be described as chagrin in one book, let alone 4?! The best book was New Moon because Edward basically wasn't in it. Edward is fundamentally a creepy stalker and abusive boyfriend and I have met too many people who think that a boy behaving like that is "sweet".

My biggest problem with it is the fangirls. There was some forum, I wish I could remember what it was called, for Twlight haters and they had a thread devoted to the injuries/attacks they had endured from fangirls. It was scary. One girl almost got her throat cut in school by another girl, another ended up with a broken leg because she rolled her eyes at the book! I'll try to find the link.

EDIT: Okay, found it-

http://twilightsucks.proboards.com/...lay&thread=5175
Field Researcher
#82 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 1:53 AM
oh my god! I can't believe the fans has turned to obsessed psychos, well, in my country we don't give any crap about showing our "enthusiasm" about books, we just said we love it and talk about it, and that's it, nothing more

Although there are some school politics that kills, but that's off topic anyway

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Lab Assistant
#83 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 2:16 AM
Ok im going to stick up for twilight here. Just for reference im not 12 im 22. Im engaged and dont compare him to Edward. I do know this is not real. My mum, his mum and my 17 year old brother all loved the books. Anyway moving on.

1. Edward and Bella's ABUSIVE (yes, abusive) relationship -

Imagin for like 100 years you have been able to read anybodies mind that you have come across. Now imagin that you meet this girl and you cant read her mind. You sneek into her house one night to try and find out more about her and find out she talks in her sleep. This is the closest you can get to knowing what shes thinking with out her censoring it. So you watch her everynight. Not out of being a crazy stalker. But trying to find out what is so special about this girl or is it just something wrong with you. To be honest i think i would proberly do the same thing.

He manipulates her into marrying him
Yes he does manipulate her, but she does the same to him. And although she originally doesnt want to marry him, this is only because she fears what her mother and friends will think of her, geting married so young. After she stops caring about that, she does want to get married.

He hides important information from her
Only to try and protect her. He just goes slightly over board. I know iv been lied to had things hidden from me to try and protect me. And yes he should have stayed but he done what he thought was right, but in the end made an error (ohhhh errror - kinda like a flaw - lol)

The lack of depth in the characters
Edward
- Edward has many flaws as shown in your previous point. Although yes on the surface he is perfect he is far from it. Hes an outcast. Both socially and romantically. Everyone has someone but him (as his family goes) He has seen so much love around him that when he gets a little chance of it, he wants to protect it how ever he can. Which leads him to do some stupid and flawed things.

Bella
To be honest im a bit taken aback by your calling it her emo phase - its called depresion. Anyway shes never fitted in anywhere, shes had few friends (that we know of) and no boyfriends. And then she finds this guy whos an outcast just like her, they fall in love (plus theres the added bonus that hes hot rich clever and talented) and then he tells her he doesnt love her and leaves her. Everything she though was true was taken away from her. She was woken up by this amazing guy and then he just leaves. Id be prety bummed (or emo) as well.

And you talk about her always needing someone. Well shes always looked after her mum, been the grown up and then when somthing bad happenes to her shes not alowed to need some help for once. I no when i have broken up with someone my friends are the ones i turn to. Just like she did with jacob. It was him that was pushing the relationship thing. And yes bella was plain, but that was the point, so every girl could identify with her, and have their own little fantasies - You got to give it to her it worked.

Also i think its creepy about jacob and renesme to.




3. The pace is way too fast
i didnt find that persoanlly. But then again your teenage years feel like they go so fast, like there are so many things happening and new things coming your way - teenagers are the target audience rememeber.

TRIriana -

Her calling him charlie i though was self exmplantory. She hasnt lived with him since a baby, she only spend summers with him. He wasnt really a dad to her, i dont think it needed spelling out.

The cars things - I know models, makes of some cars, and would know enough to ask some questions about cars. How ever i would not know enought to be able to fix a 60 year old truck (cant rememeber how old the truck really is) and i think thats what she means when she said she didnt know anything.

She would still be an outsider. Yes she has visted forks (not the past few summers as you suggested, she meet her dad somewhere else for the past few summers). She described it as the daughter of the flightly ex wife of the cheif of police (round about i cant rememeber it exacly) she is the outsider because she left, she didnt live in the town only visited. Charlie's cheif of police so she would know people, yet she has descibed him as working all the time and married to his job, in this case he problerly wouldnt have taken her out alot or socialised with people with kids the same age. Also they would have spent alot of time on the reservation.

Ok so basically its not the best written book, but i love it. Yes i said love. People are reading far to much into this book it is not a litery piece of genius, read to much into it and you wont enjoy it. Just acept it for what it is and induge yourself in a bit of fanasty.

Also if iv seemed a bit harsh its just cos i cant be bothered to keep writing lol at the end of every sentence, i really am rather loverly, tee hee.

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Lab Assistant
#84 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 2:25 AM
I totally agree with you! I have read all of the books and they suck so bad. The characters aren't thought out and the plot... well it just stinks. Everyone is like in love with it and it just makes me sick. "Yes let's go waste our time reading about a little Emo girl named Bella who is in love with a vampire!" Everyone is wearing those stupid shirts like "I only date vampires", "Twilight" and "Edward is for me", it makes me sick. For god's sake go read a decent book like 1984 or something!
Theorist
#85 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 5:50 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Whatwedobest
Everyone is wearing those stupid shirts like "I only date vampires", "Twilight" and "Edward is for me", it makes me sick. For god's sake go read a decent book like 1984 or something!


Exactly! I've had 13/14 year olds tell me they sleep with their windows open every single night so Edward can come in and bite them...he's not real.

I guess it's not so much the book that's the problem, but the reactions to it that bother me so much. They kind of border on delusional. Although having said that, I hate people holding up the book as some sort of brilliant work of fiction. Stephenie Meyer isn't exactly the new Jane Austen, Charlotte Bronte or Charlotte Perkins Gilman here. She wrote books about sparkly vampires.

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Test Subject
#86 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 6:42 AM
Quote: Originally posted by BewitchedPrue
Exactly! I've had 13/14 year olds tell me they sleep with their windows open every single night so Edward can come in and bite them...he's not real.


Man, my generation sucks.
Theorist
#87 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 6:46 AM
Quote: Originally posted by seizurefriendly
Man, my generation sucks.


Haha, I'm only 19 and I have several friends who act in the same way, although they aren't quite at the delusional stage. To my knowledge anyway. My roommate did get a bit obsessive over this boy she was convinced came into our room at night to watch us sleep...I think I talked her out of that though.

"Your life was a liner I voyaged in."
Test Subject
#88 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 6:52 AM
Quote: Originally posted by BewitchedPrue
My roommate did get a bit obsessive over this boy she was convinced came into our room at night to watch us sleep...I think I talked her out of that though.


Ya never know. Did he sparkle in the sun?
Theorist
#89 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 7:58 AM
Quote: Originally posted by seizurefriendly
Ya never know. Did he sparkle in the sun?


I was more concerned about how she thought he was getting into our 4th floor room to watch us sleep when I locked the door every night to be honest!

"Your life was a liner I voyaged in."
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#90 Old 2nd Jun 2009 at 10:15 PM
If you want a good teen vampire fiction book, read the House of Night series by PC and Kristen Cast. All were VERY GOOD.

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#91 Old 21st Jun 2009 at 9:42 PM
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LOL! Well said!

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Test Subject
#92 Old 25th Jun 2009 at 1:58 PM
I read Twilight in early 2006. I got it out from the library, read it in a few days and had no intention of picking it up again.

I enjoyed it but I wasn't totally hooked lol. Then last year the movie came out, and I discovered there had been sequels! I had no idea xD.

I haven't read them and I don't intend to either.

SMeyer used too many adjectives in the one sentence and it ended up being void. That annoyed me to no end >.<
Field Researcher
#93 Old 28th Jun 2009 at 6:12 AM
I find the series very disturbing due to the fact that Stephanie Meyer decided to romanticize sexism and abuse- It's even more creepy that millions of young girls are eating it up. xx
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#94 Old 28th Jun 2009 at 4:06 PM
Quote: Originally posted by clockworkapple
I find the series very disturbing due to the fact that Stephanie Meyer decided to romanticize sexism and abuse- It's even more creepy that millions of young girls are eating it up. xx

My thoughts exactly. I don't even care that it's horribly written. Most bad books are harmless and entertaining. If it was just some stupid little story about vampires, it probably would've amused me to no end.

It just worries me that millions of girls and women think it's a realistic and acceptable portrayal of love. What in Lucifer's reaches is romantic about Edward Cullen?

I read the first book before all the hype and even then, I thought it was garbage. Not even 'so bad it's good', just... 'so bad it makes me want to go back in time and send a virus to Stephenie Meyer's computer to prevent her from inflicting this disease onto my generation'.

I'd just graduated high school when Twilight blew up and I'm so glad for that. I can't imagine being around all that garbage in a high school setting.
Alchemist
#95 Old 12th Jul 2009 at 11:43 AM
Quote: Originally posted by HaphazardSim
I read book 1....laughed and then got freaked out by the fangirls/boys/parents, I have never and will never understand the hype surrounding this series and whenever someone compares it to Harry Potter I feel like hitting them over the head.


seconded, and im not even much of a harry potter fan....

*replying directly to the subject now.*

and obviously people who think bella was really depressed. really need to read up on depression. or go through it themselves. i'll end it there, though i feel like ranting completely about it...

IMHO, bella is the epitome of a useless female specimen. her very character is an insult to women who not only care for themselves, but pointedly do so without reliance on others. edward is disturbing when he isnt stiff and boring. i dont care HOW you try and explain it--two wrongs dont make a right. bella's mental instability doesnt vouch for his.

well, at least my mother and i got a good laugh out of it. even if we had to stop nearly every other sentence to point it out to each other and do so. it was good quality time, and now she can confidently say that she wouldnt catch me dead [ or undead for that matter ] in that kind of a relationship! (:

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Test Subject
#96 Old 14th Jul 2009 at 12:16 AM
I read Twilight. It took me two weeks to get through a book that I should've read in three days tops because it was so aweful I didn't want to read anymore. The characters are a fail. The writing is a fail. The plot is a fail. Everything about the book is a fail. And the movie, don't even get me started. I will never watch it.

Words of derision I have swallowed with a smile. For telling my story I've been...crucified.
Test Subject
#97 Old 16th Jul 2009 at 2:55 AM
at first I kinda liked the books, I get to read all 4 of them, after Ive read Interview with the vampire, wich by the way I loved it, the book is ok, I mainly liked it because it was funny at times, but I do agree with all of you and all thats been said, I even liked the movie, but still, not my cup of tea, I rather have Anne Rice, Darren Shan or John Ajvide for vampire books, what it pisses me off about Twilight is its fans, especially the fangirls!, they dont care about the plot, the chararcters feeling, or anything, they just stay drooling over Edward Cullen, and thats it, is all that they ever do!, they dont even care about the book, I was really anoyed when we wached the film cause everyone was screaming in each scene where Pattinson appeared....

something else, I think that the main reason why somany people likes this series is because is a really commercial plot/formula: plain AVERAGE girl with no backround or anything gets the hottest guy in school, who happends to be a vampire, is going to be a hit cause thats something that most girls can relate to, cause they all want to be Bella, so they get Edward, no wonder why theres no team Bella...
Alchemist
#98 Old 20th Jul 2009 at 8:09 AM
It was alright. The books were far better though.

Although i never got the big deal about rob pattinson. I didn't think he was that hot....

Everything sucks, until it doesn't.
Field Researcher
#99 Old 20th Jul 2009 at 8:58 AM
I'm going to compare Twilight to the myriad of hack & slash action movies out there- it's mindless entertainment. I enjoyed reading it (did not care for Breaking Dawn at all), but will not pretend that it is anything like a great literary work. Just fluff, like going to the movies to watch things explode for a couple of hours.

Eagerly awaiting Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.
Mad Poster
#100 Old 20th Jul 2009 at 9:14 AM
The books are fine...I guess.
The movie, as I will always say, is the biggest rip-off in history.
It's too over dramatic...

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