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Top Secret Researcher
#26 Old 25th Sep 2014 at 10:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Grig 32
Sadly, this is one of the problems of the internet - it's like pee in a swimming pool; once it's in there it's in there. You can't take it out... and once someone pirates or posts something without permission, it's going to be hosted on other sites
I wonder how profitable it would be to pirate pee?

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Which game is made for the juvenile minded?
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dodgy builder
#27 Old 25th Sep 2014 at 11:01 PM
I live and have to love internet. That fact that some people abuse it is something I have to live with and deal with. I can't take them all, but I can do my share. I just don't understand this "you can't do anything about that" attitude, it just never accomplish anything. I'm not going to make it a big thing, but I will do some. If many others send the same complaints as I did, it will be noticed by the host. Since it's self hosted they can just move the blog I guess, but he will have realized that it's not ok.
Instructor
#28 Old 25th Sep 2014 at 11:28 PM
There are two sides to this coin. Yes, theft is irritating. But on the plus side...if something of yours is being stolen, it means there's a demand for it. It's been my experience with the Sims 4 Gallery.

I post the Godfather, and get a few downloads. I post the cast of Sharknado, and get no downloads. I post the Flippo family, and get questions instead of downloads.

But I have half a mind to ask EA to ban Disney princesses because it seems some days like that's all the Gallery posters ever care to post. I've got versions of Ariel and Elsa coming out of my ears at this point, and am annoyed by the complete lack of originality in that Gallery.

You can find me on the Sims 4 Gallery as DozerfleetProd. If you have XBox One or PS4, please test out my creations, and let me know if / how well they work on consoles.
I aim to misbehave
retired moderator
#29 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:06 AM
Quote: Originally posted by mustluvcatz
To speed things along, everyone plasticbox mentioned should send their "Please remove my content" request NOW. So should anyone who's content is there that wasn't mentioned. And hey! Spread the word so those who's content wasn't from here to begin with will know to send one, too.


I asked him to take down my content yesterday. Today he replied giving me two choices: give a link to my blog/website other than MTS because he doesn't want to link to MTS or join the website and link to my account there. I replied asking again to take it down and I haven't got an answer after 11 hours. I'm patient, and I can wait for a few days... but not more.

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#30 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:24 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Vampire_aninyosaloh
I asked him to take down my content yesterday. Today he replied giving me two choices: give a link to my blog/website other than MTS because he doesn't want to link to MTS or join the website and link to my account there. I replied asking again to take it down and I haven't got an answer after 11 hours. I'm patient, and I can wait for a few days... but not more.


Wait, so now he is taking stuff and not even going to link/credit back to MTS because he has his ickle feelings hurt? Gheesh.

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Instructor
#31 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:32 AM
Visited that site just now. He has a filter system on there that won't let me use his search unit unless I disable AdBlockPlus. But since everything on that site looked like spam anyway, I wasn't about to do that. A quick scan of his offerings revealed not a whole lot of characters being ripped off, so at least (from what I can tell) he isn't stealing from me.

Even so, it would appear that he is trying to be the Sexy Sims of Sims 4, since that site for Sims 2 and 3 is basically dead now. Every nudity mod, nudity patch, and 18+ item for Sims 4 in existence seems to be there. There's no way he or his friends made all that much TS4 porn, and even those who do would seldom advertise it by calling it porn outright, the way he does. And the way he advertises it is like one of those 90's used car ads by a noisy dealer with no shame.

The site is ugly, through and through. It makes everything as loud and flashy as possible. If it blinked more, it would be a death sentence to an epileptic. Whoever runs it has no shame, and little sense of taste. The entire thing is him basically trolling the whole rest of the Sims modding community. I can just about see him posting a "U mad?" trollface on the front page, and he may as well. Seriously...it is entirely possible to feel less violated after a trip to Craigslist.

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#32 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:45 AM
Quote: Originally posted by CormorantEnt
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Even so, it would appear that he is trying to be the Sexy Sims of Sims 4, since that site for Sims 2 and 3 is basically dead now. ....


Not so, we are working on getting it upgraded for TS4.
Instructor
#33 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:52 AM
Quote: Originally posted by HugeLunatic
Not so, we are working on getting it upgraded for TS4.


If I ever need anatomical correctness of Sims 4, I'll make note of that. But yeah, everything at Sims4Forum appears to have been stolen from somewhere else. It is the Craigslist of Sims fan sites. (And that's saying something, given how the archive of PaySitesMustBeDestroyed used to be done.)

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Former Hamster
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#34 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:58 AM
@Vampire_aninyosaloh - Seriously? You should reply to him telling him that he doesn't get to give YOU choices. It's your content and you want it off that site. Oh my.. the fact that he thinks he can give an ultimatum like that, excuse me while I laugh til I puke.
Forum Resident
#35 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:06 AM
Quote: Originally posted by emifan
Thanks leefish & plasticbox for explanation. Not everyone is techy enough to figure it all out on his/her own.
But, let's be honest - once you "share" something on Internet, even if you just post it on cloud drive (DropBox, OneDrive, Google Drive), or even use email to send it -
aware it can be used without your permission.

Neither your own pledge nor law (DMCA whatever) can stop it. As long as something yours gets to computer/service you do not own - it's no longer yours.
So, if you want to keep anything secure - do not upload it anywhere, including e-mail, and store it on a PC totally disconnected from Internet (and better do not plug any external storage that does not belong to you too).


So does that mean I can download The Sims 4 off of a piracy website AND seed it, since EA shared the game online through Origin?

Please go and educate yourself on copyright laws before you make statements like that. Just because people do things doesn't mean it's legal.
Pettifogging Legalist!
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#36 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:06 AM
Regarding searching on that site, I use Noscript (which also means I see hardly any ads anywhere) and I can use the search feature just fine.

Also, "Mod The Sims - Sims4Forum and Content Theft" and "Sims4Forum Now Stealing Others Mods And Charging Users To ..." as well as the tumblr tag http://www.tumblr.com/search/sims4forum are meanwhile on page 1 of Google results when searching for "Sims4Forum" (and I get German-language results too (to unrelated German forums with the same name) so for others these might rank even higher).

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Test Subject
#37 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:37 AM
Default Seriously?
Quote: Originally posted by emifan
Thanks leefish & plasticbox for explanation. Not everyone is techy enough to figure it all out on his/her own.
But, let's be honest - once you "share" something on Internet, even if you just post it on cloud drive (DropBox, OneDrive, Google Drive), or even use email to send it -
aware it can be used without your permission.

Neither your own pledge nor law (DMCA whatever) can stop it. As long as something yours gets to computer/service you do not own - it's no longer yours.
So, if you want to keep anything secure - do not upload it anywhere, including e-mail, and store it on a PC totally disconnected from Internet (and better do not plug any external storage that does not belong to you too).



You just made alot of peoples IQs drop from saying that. Do you not know what the DMCA is? Plus, here's a quick fact check for you: When you create something that is from YOUR OWN art, it is automatically copyright. People who want to host it cannot just i.e "walk up and just take it off the wall" use it without that creators consent. You made me just realize there are people like you that overlook the facts and say what they think is true. I'm an art student and i know copyright infringement when i see it in plain sight. There's no hiding behind the lies of where you got it because where ever the creator of the work is will come and even give proof that it is his/her work. (Today and ever since the renaissance era) Artists always put their signature on each created piece of canvas.

Next time kid, Logic needed to come into play.
Instructor
#38 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:47 AM
Quote: Originally posted by emifan
Thanks leefish & plasticbox for explanation. Not everyone is techy enough to figure it all out on his/her own.
But, let's be honest - once you "share" something on Internet, even if you just post it on cloud drive (DropBox, OneDrive, Google Drive), or even use email to send it -
aware it can be used without your permission.

Neither your own pledge nor law (DMCA whatever) can stop it. As long as something yours gets to computer/service you do not own - it's no longer yours.
So, if you want to keep anything secure - do not upload it anywhere, including e-mail, and store it on a PC totally disconnected from Internet (and better do not plug any external storage that does not belong to you too).


I get what you're trying to say; but that was a poor choice of words.

To spare you from future other-posters' hate, here's a more correct way of wording it: "Once you share something, regulating its redistribution effectively becomes next to impossible. If you wish to avoid theft too greatly, you'll never post anywhere. Every post comes with risks attached."

Phrasing can be everything.

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#39 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:51 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Vampire_aninyosaloh
I asked him to take down my content yesterday. Today he replied giving me two choices: give a link to my blog/website other than MTS because he doesn't want to link to MTS or join the website and link to my account there. I replied asking again to take it down and I haven't got an answer after 11 hours. I'm patient, and I can wait for a few days... but not more.


After 3 days, fill in the DMCA and mail it to the email given in the sample form. If you all do this then his site will be taken away by his host. Really.

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Deceased
#40 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 4:38 AM
Quote: Originally posted by plasticbox
Here's a list of content he had C+Pd as of two days ago -- not saying it's complete:

Mods
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=535549
change-sim-name-or-gender-mod


Thanks for the info. I have sent a request to have the content removed.
Pettifogging Legalist!
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#41 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 6:26 AM
Also, here is a link to their terms of service: http://sims4forum.com/help/terms

Quote:
You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws.

All Content you submit or upload may be reviewed by staff members. All Content you submit or upload may be sent to third-party verification services (including, but not limited to, spam prevention services). Do not submit any Content that you consider to be private or confidential.

We reserve the rights to remove or modify any Content submitted for any reason without explanation. Requests for Content to be removed or modified will be undertaken only at our discretion. We reserve the right to take action against any account with the Service at any time.

You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.

These terms may be changed at any time without notice.

If you do not agree with these terms, please do not register or use this Service. If you wish to close your account, please contact us.



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#42 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 7:21 AM
I just checked back on the site, the prick FINALLY took down the stuff he stole.

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#43 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 7:28 AM
Most of the content is still there; please, creators, if you want to have your work removed from his site, just check for your work being hosted there and ask for it to be removed. If it is NOT removed then you send the DMCA (give him 3 days to comply with your request).

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#44 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 7:57 AM
I've just recieved the following reply to my email to their web host:

Quote:
Hello,

Thank you for contacting the Legal Department.

We have contacted the owner and have requested the violation be removed.
Please allow 48 hours for any violations to be removed.

Please review the web site after the expiration of the 48 hour notice period, and notify us in the event you determine that the alleged infringing material has not been eliminated or that access to it has not been disabled, and we will take further action.

Please feel free to contact us again if we can be of further assistance.

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Test Subject
#45 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 8:28 AM
Hello simmers,
I appreciate every single bit of information that helps ppl to understand that braking a copyright is "not just fun", "allowed ayway", "nothing to care about": Creating takes skill, creativity and time. This needs to be respected by everyone. Otherwise there might be a day noone is interested in creating anymore! A farmer would not go on planting and harvesting if all his produce is stolen afterwards all the time!
Thank you for this thread!
Greetings
simension
Field Researcher
#46 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 10:16 AM
I'm no stranger to this either, as it's pretty much a recurring problem in GTAForums, where my friends and I have been complaining about South Asian kids cobbling up "mod packs" comprised of high-poly Lambos and CLEO scripts they didn't obviously make. I can tell you that scouring GTAG for dupes and stolen mods is a pain in the butt - I had to do hex comparisons, MD5 checks, google-fu, etc. just to see if a suspicious-looking mod is indeed appropriated.

I don't really mind if at least some of my mods are mirrored or edited by a third party, for as long as they link back to my page or credit yours truly, but this is by and large crass and disrespectful for those who worked hard on making the game even better. Making money from it added insult to the injury, so to speak.
Instructor
#47 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 10:22 AM
Quote: Originally posted by plasticbox
@Volvenom @Amichan619 @KitOnlyHuman @MaclimesZero @flanah @Helianthea @LukeProduction @Vampire_aninyosaloh @Lunararc @FifthAce2007 @guidion @Shimrod101 @IceM @BiscoMix @AgonistAgent @fetusdip @EVOL_EVOLVED @MasterDinadan @scumbumbo @Zerbu @TwistedMexi -- just making sure you see this thread.

Discussion thread with posts by Sims4forum is here, for reference.


Thanks for the mention <3

All and all, no good.
Lab Assistant
#48 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 12:08 PM
Quote: Originally posted by plasticbox
@Volvenom @Amichan619 @KitOnlyHuman @MaclimesZero @flanah @Helianthea @LukeProduction @Vampire_aninyosaloh @Lunararc @FifthAce2007 @guidion @Shimrod101 @IceM @BiscoMix @AgonistAgent @fetusdip @EVOL_EVOLVED @MasterDinadan @scumbumbo @Zerbu @TwistedMexi -- just making sure you see this thread.

Discussion thread with posts by Sims4forum is here, for reference.


Oh thank you!
I aim to misbehave
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#49 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:27 PM
I think he isn't answering my second email because in the first one I was kind of nice and in the second one not so much Anyways, I'll give him two more days, as Lee said.

At least he seems not to be adding new MTS cc:

Quote:
I dont plan on sharing anything from MTS for a while, or at least not without permission from the creators over there. Caused a bit of a stir that I did so


But he hasn't taken down the one he already uploaded either. And does that mean that he is only not uploading cc from MTS because we have complained and other creators who haven't complained are ok to steal from?

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Test Subject
#50 Old 26th Sep 2014 at 1:37 PM
Thanks for all of the information
I'd also like to add that I don't understand all this stealing thing... I just can't belive that some people are too lazy to do something by themselves so they claim other people creations as their own ones... Okay, some of them just can't do them but that's no point! I also can't do many things such as creation new furniture meshes, but I could never steal! people who do it are just... pathetic x.x
Locked thread | Locked by: Reason: thread staying closed right now , if anything comes up, send me or plasticbox a PM.
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