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Lamare 20th Sep 2017 12:17 AM

Young adults can enjoy maternity (and all that)
 
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Another one for theme Maternity & Beyond.

This is a set of global mods that make having kids possible and comfortable for young adults and sims living on campus.

Updates
10 June 2018: updated "move out of college" [3]
25 May 2018: added "join greek fix"
22 Apr. 2018: added "alien pregnancy for YA's of any gender"
17 Feb. 2018: improved "move out of college" [2]
04 Feb. 2018: added "teens stay teens"
17 oct. 2017: improved "move out of college" and added new mod "uni dorm rooms"

Plan of attack:
  1. Pick and choose the files you want by reading their descriptions down below. (Options!)
  2. Run Hack Conflict Detection Utility to make sure these hacks don't clash with anything you have in your Downloads folder.
  3. Get some clothing fixes (I'll explain it). And you're set!

Here goes...

Uni-aging
  • Requires Apartment Life or M&G
  • Choose only one version
  • No overrides.
  • Conflicts: probably InTeenimater. Maybe not directly, but InTeen already covers aging at university, so it has a potential to cause some weirdness, like sims aging twice a day or something.
Versions: Uni-aging-each-[N]-day
  • Playable sims age and grow up while living on campus (all except young adults).
    • Depending on your chosen version, they age each N day.
    • This allows you to adjust aging to your college time scale and play style.
    • Example: if you want sims to age everyday at 18 pm, choose Uni-aging-each-1-day.
    • If you'd like an 'N' I haven't provided, ask me or change it yourself in BCON #1009 (Age each N day).
  • This is custom controller that operates only in Uni 'hoods on livable lots. It does its thing quietly, no actions needed from you.
  • It is also needed for pregnancies to advance in uni 'hoods.
  • If so happens that you have other custom aging controller that works on campus lots, you can stick to that one, if you like it better. You don't want to have more than one.
  • Note that teens on campus don't stay teens for very long - they get instantly "fixed" into young adults, usually on lot load. You'll find a mod to prevent that down below.
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YA-pregnancy
  • Requires Apartment Life or M&G
  • Choose only one of the two versions
  • Conflicts with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • Known conflicts:
    - Sims2Living Teen Pregnancy Mod\S2LTeenFemalePregnancyEnabler.package (explaining in post #24)
    - Pescado's wfsanity (resolvable, see post #20)
    - Twojeffs_Preg_For_All_Genders (reported in post #39)
    - Havechildnotadopt (affects wants, also see post #39)
    - InTeenimater
    - Wild Child - Darkwolf Jr. updated the mod so it can be used with mine and posted new topic. Get more info there.
    - AncientHighway's ah_lotfullofsims (see posts #67-68)
Version YA-pregnancy-AL
  • Young adults may roll wants to have children.
  • Try for baby interactions are available to young adults (whether on campus or not). Actions are NOT autonomous.
  • In uni, for pregnancy to advance, you'll need Uni-aging-each-N-day. OR other custom aging controller that supports pregnancies on campus lots.
Version YA-pregnancy-anyplayable-AL
  • Young adults may roll wants to have children.
  • Try for baby interactions are available to young adults (whether on campus or not). Actions are NOT autonomous.
  • Also, it is not necessary for a mother to be a member of currently controlled household.
    • Example: it's possible to impregnate Nina while she's a guest at Don's.
    • Mother still must be a playable, have room in her household for another sim, and other usual rules apply.
  • In uni, for pregnancy to advance, you'll need Uni-aging-each-N-day. OR other custom aging controller that supports pregnancies on campus lots.
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YA-alien-pregnancy
  • Young adults may get pregnant after alien abduction.
  • Requires Free Time or later EP/SP
  • Choose only one version
  • Conflicts with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • Known conflicts:
    - BO's alien experiments
    - Wild Child - Darkwolf Jr. updated the mod so it can be used with mine and posted new topic. Get more info there.
Versions:
  • YA-male-alien-pregnancy-FT - only males can get pregnant (as usual)
  • YA-anygender-alien-pregnancy-FT - males and females can get pregnant
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YA-move-out-of-college [3]
  • Requires Apartment Life or M&G
  • Sims have more choices for when and how they move out of college. They can decide not to move out right away. They can do that any time, even as adults or elders. And when and if they move out, they can take other sims and pets with them and manage funds with maximum precision. Details of the process:
    • Dropping out, getting expelled, or using up the time after graduation.
      • Available for students in college, unless you use some mod that pulls this procedure in main 'hood.
      • Normally, the game prompts young adults to age up to adults and move out. This mod lets them choose - to move out or to stay. They still age up.
      • Normally, they move out alone. This mod lets them take other sims with them, except for young adults that haven't graduated yet. They can choose who to take along and even move out the whole household. They can not leave kids or pets without a guardian.
      • Normally, the budget is decided automatically by the game. This mod allows to specify it precisely. Sims can take any part of current funds from nothing to everything. If they take at least $1, that's what they end up in 'hood bin. If they take nothing - they receive $20.000 "government aid".
      • After moving out sims can be found in main 'hood family bin.
    • Phone call option to move back to primary neighborhood.
      • Normally, it's available to graduated young adults on college lots before they used up their remaining time. This mod opens the phone call to adults and elders that happen to live at university.
      • Young adults are forced to age up to adults as usual. Adults and elders, of course, aren't.
      • Sims can take other sims with them, except for young adults that haven't graduated yet. They can choose who to take along and even move out the whole household. They can not leave kids or pets without a guardian. They can take any part of current funds from nothing to everything. If they take at least $1, that's what they end up in 'hood bin. If they take nothing - they receive $20.000 "government aid". After moving out sims can be found in main 'hood family bin.
  • Conflicts with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • Known conflict:
    - InTeenimater
    - my old YA-moveout-of-college and upcoming moving mod for all (in testing now)
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Uni-adoption
  • Young adults may roll wants to adopt children.
  • Adoption service is available in Uni 'hoods. Young adults and older sims can apply.
  • Requires Bon Voyage or later EP/SP
  • Conflicts with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • Known conflict: Havechildnotadopt (reported in post #39)
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Uni-school-bus
  • School bus picks up kids living on campus and delivers them to school (public or private) and back home.
  • Also, the game processes school properly in uni (for example, checks if a kid missed school) and shows you school-related notifications.
  • Requires University or later EP/SP
  • Conflicts with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • Known conflict:
    - Pescado’s private school bill Fix (weird, but reported as working fine in post #26)
    - InTeenimater
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Uni-dorm-rooms
  • Requires University (since I'm on UC and have no way to test only Uni environment, be careful and test)
  • Choose only one version
  • Conflicts with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • In dorms, the game reserves rooms only for specific ages of sims.
    • Example: if your sims have a baby in a dorm, the game won't think that it needs a room, and it won't push a dormie to move out.
    • Playable sims kid to elder still can claim doors - the interaction is there, if a door is free. If a wrong sim claimed a door, he or she won't be pushed out of the room, but you might be notified. If the sim has unclaimed the room and the game doesn't think he or she needs one, it will fill it with a townie soon.
    • The mod only applies to dorms as a lot type located in uni hood (unless you have some kind of hack that makes dorm controller work in other subhoods or lots).
Version Uni-dorm-rooms-only-for-YA
  • Dorm room will not be reserved for anyone except young adults. Only students will be counted as sims, who need their own dorm room.
Version Uni-dorm-rooms-only-for-YA-A-E
  • Dorm room will not be reserved for underage sims and pets. But the grown-ups will be expected to have their own dorm rooms.
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Uni-teens-stay-teens
  • Prevents the game from turning teens into young adults on university lots, other than dorms.
  • This mod doesn't change aging process (6 pm thing). Normally sims wouldn't age on campus at all. If you'd like teens to age while living on campus, grab "Uni aging" mod.
  • For teens to age up to young adults and become students, they have to move in to dorm. You can use phone option to enroll. Other types of lots leave teens be teens.
  • Requires University AND later EP/SP (I have Ultimate Collection and can't test lower game versions; if you don't have UC/M&G/AL, try it in a testing 'hood first)
  • May conflict with any mod that overrides the same resources
  • Known conflicts:
    - InTeenimater (It actually helped me find the resources needed to be changed for teens to stay teens. I thought the dorm rule was clever, so I followed this approach. I thank InTeenimakers!)
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Uni-join-greek-fix
  • When your sim tries to join a Greek house that has under-aged residents, the game will only use teens or older sims in the scenario. Children, toddlers and babies will be ignored. If the Greek household only has kids (unlikely, but still), your sim will not be able to join it.
  • Requires University AND any later EP/SP (I have Ultimate Collection and can't test lower game versions; if you don't have UC/M&G/AL, try it in a testing 'hood first)
  • May conflict with any mod that overrides the same resources
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Stuff to download elsewhere:
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Questions & answers:
  • Do these mods support dorms as well a private housing? What about Greek Houses?
    I tested different situations and made sure you should have no problems playing in dorms, private or greek houses. Giving multiple births, moving in and out with kids, splitting family between houses and dorms, moving back home as a drop-out, claiming dorm rooms by kids and then moving out, etc -- no problems. Of course, if you notice something odd, let me know.
  • If I was playing with just a male sim, and he tries for a baby with someone who lives in the dorm (but still an NPC), will the child be born even though it's not controllable?
    A mother must be a playable, not an NPC or townie, otherwise there's no trying for a baby with her.
  • Can YA's off the campus get pregnant?
    Yes. Bear in mind that being young adult and living in university are two separate things, technically.
  • Does ACR work in conjunction with this mod?
    ACR and my mod won't clash, so you can use them together. Although, they will not always combine their functions in a way you might expect. As far as I know, ACR provides custom interactions, completely separate from vanilla ones. So, with my mod, 'try for baby' interaction will not be autonomous for YAs, it's just a vanilla 'try for baby' made available for YA sims. They won't try for baby unless you to click the action on the menu. When you click 'try for baby', your sims may get pregnant with a certain % chance as it happens in vanilla game. As for birth control function, I don't know how it works and I don't use ACR, so it's hard to tell without testing whether it prevents pregnancy in this case.
  • Are the no20khandouts the Uni moveout compatible?
    Yes they are. YA-move-out-of-college takes priority when it comes to moving out of college, but no20khandouts still works in other moving out occasions. Load order doesn't matter, by the way.

Features already available in game, by the way:
  • To hire a nanny in Uni.
  • To lose children to social worker.
    • You'll get no more than a warning for going to class while a kid stays alone. But try not to accumulate too many warnings and beware of the exams!
  • To walk to school for kids in Uni.
  • To live with non-YAs on campus and move between houses with them, once those sims are moved in or born.
  • Some YAs' outfits already have pregnant morphs.

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gummilutt 20th Sep 2017 12:51 AM

This is one seriously fabulous creation. I suspect inteen is going to see a lot less use now that you've given us an alternative method of YA pregnancies. Hat off to you, congratulations on a truly great creation! And kudos on managing to make the upload text structured and easy to read despite the massive amount of information.

DezzyBoo 20th Sep 2017 1:06 AM

Will the YA Alien pregnancy conflict with BO's alien experiments? Other than that, THANK YOU! Love this!

Lamare 20th Sep 2017 1:25 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by gummilutt
And kudos on managing to make the upload text structured and easy to read despite the massive amount of information.

Oh, good to know! I was worried it might be confusing. Thank you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DezzyBoo
Will the YA Alien pregnancy conflict with BO's alien experiments? Other than that, THANK YOU! Love this!

Yes, it will conflict. As far as I can tell (looking at his mod right now), the mod allows to touch young adults on condition that player has InTeen installed. I can easily remove that condition and forward the file to you personally. I hope BO wouldn't mind as long as I'm not posting it publicly.

BirdY_GirlY295 20th Sep 2017 8:57 AM

Wow, I've wanted to have a 'teen mother' for ages, but they could never go to university.. but now they can!!!! Thank you so-so-so-so-so-so-so much!!!!

BirdY_GirlY295 20th Sep 2017 9:00 AM

Sorry, I was just wondering. If I was playing with just a male sim, and he tries for a baby with someone who lives in the dorm (but still an NPC), will the child be born even though it's not controllable??

Lamare 20th Sep 2017 9:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdY_GirlY295
Sorry, I was just wondering. If I was playing with just a male sim, and he tries for a baby with someone who lives in the dorm (but still an NPC), will the child be born even though it's not controllable??

A mother must be a playable, not an NPC or townie, otherwise there's no trying for a baby with her.

Woolysmurf 20th Sep 2017 10:22 AM

I've been wanting this for such a long time but it's way beyond my humble simpe skills. Thank you so much for sharing!

smorbie1 20th Sep 2017 2:39 PM

ALL HAIL THE QUEEN!!!!!

LilSister 20th Sep 2017 3:23 PM

I haven't been this excited about a mod since maybesomethingdunnos Surfs Up mod. A few years back I experimented with YA marriage and pregnancy in one of my neighborhoods; Of course I had to employ various methods as I dont use Inteen. The students had to live in private housing because dorms operate differently. It appears (if I understand correctly), these mods support dorms as well a private housing? What about Greek Houses?

Ive been playing my neighborhood for 3 years and these mods would enhance my game play options. So I chose the following: 6 day aging, YA Uni School Bus, YA move out college, YA pregnancy-any playable all for AL. I play with a very heavily modded game (over 1000) so it goes without saying that I rely on the HDCU. I was totally shocked that there was only one conflict reported and the source was even more surprising. The conflict reported was with your Uni-SchoolBus mod and Pescados private school bill Fix.

Not sure when Ill have a situation where these mods will come into play; although I think I may have the perfect couple to try this out with. Im going to add them to my game and see how they get along in my downloads folder and see how or if it affects the private school billing in an adverse way.

sarah.h0201 20th Sep 2017 3:35 PM

This is so good! I've wanted a mod like this forever now and you just made my day! THANK YOU!!!

Hrtsmom 20th Sep 2017 7:06 PM

This is something I've been wishing for, for ages! Can't wait to try it out!

ankoyume 20th Sep 2017 7:54 PM

That's a BIG mod, I love it, Thanks !

Lamare 21st Sep 2017 5:04 AM

Thank you for your kind words, guys, and for your questions -- based on them I add known conflicts and clarifications to main post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LilSister
It appears (if I understand correctly), these mods support dorms as well a private housing? What about Greek Houses?

I tested different situations and made sure you should have no problems playing in dorms, private or greek houses. Giving multiple births, moving in and out with kids, splitting family between houses and dorms, moving back home as a drop-out, claiming dorm rooms by kids and then moving out -- no problems. Of course, if you notice something odd, let me know.
Worth noting about dorms, as soon as your sim's baby is born, because it counts as member of playable household, a random dormie will free a room making place for new playable sim, even though babies don't need rooms and can't claim doors.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LilSister
Im going to add them to my game and see how they get along in my downloads folder and see how or if it affects the private school billing in an adverse way.

I suspect, the one that loads last will overrule the other, so one of them won't work. But it shouldn't be too hard to merge them together in one file. I can do that, if you find they really don't work as separate mods.

PenelopeT 21st Sep 2017 11:43 PM

Really enjoyed playing around with the beta of the YA-pregnancy-anyplayable, and look forward to adding the published version to my game. Thank you!

StrangeTownChick 21st Sep 2017 11:51 PM

Seems like a great mod. Can't wait to try it out. This is something I've wanted for a while but I didn't want the full package of InTeen.
Also, an idea for a use for the adoption: Say a child gets taken from a family by the social worker unjustly and you want them back. The family can't adopt them back, but the child's older sibling/aunt/uncle at Uni could! Then you could fix relationships, memories, etc. yourself.

Lamare 22nd Sep 2017 6:07 PM

@PenelopeT, thank you too, for that early feedback

PenelopeT 23rd Sep 2017 2:07 AM

No problem, it was my pleasure.

deerparker 25th Sep 2017 7:59 PM

Hi there, I'm wondering if it's safe to use your 'YA-pregnancy-anyplayable-AL' with pescado's 'wfsanity' since they conflict according to the HDCU? Could I just load yours after his or would that be a very bad thing?

I'm really looking forward to having visiting playables get pregnant! Thanks!

Lamare 26th Sep 2017 5:09 AM

@deerparker, you can have both mods.
The conflict is about wants. Both mods have a file that determines if and when sims may roll a want to have a child. Whichever mod loads last gets to make final decision, so to speak. If you want young adults to be able to roll want to have a baby, make my mod load last.

deerparker 26th Sep 2017 6:45 PM

Thank you Lamare!

frigidbunny 26th Sep 2017 10:59 PM

i've been waiting for this for so long! thank you so much

Bulbizarre 30th Sep 2017 7:15 AM

Hi. What exactly the conflict between YA-pregnancy and S2LTeenFemalePregnancyEnabler? Is it that can resolve by swapping out the load order or does the entire mod break? I can live with SimBlender the teen pregnancy if it come to that.

I would also be interested in the modified version of BO's Alien Experiments, if thats not much too problem.

Thanks in advance.

Lamare 30th Sep 2017 9:05 AM

Hi, @ihatemandatoryregister
Both mods have "Pregnancy - Can We Get Pregnant?" procedure and it's pretty important -- it decides whether two sims can try for baby. So if my mod loads last, it'll overwrite all changes made by S2LTeenFemalePregnancyEnabler, one of them being inclusion of teens. It may or may not work out ok for that mod -- I don't know. (Not that I don't want to help, it's just it's probably a complicated mod, and I won't be able to predict all the consequences unless I test it, and I'm not even interested in teen pregnancy.)

Sent you PM with a link to "BO - Alien-Experiments-GLOBAL-edit-for-YA.package".

Bulbizarre 30th Sep 2017 7:49 PM

Thanks for explaining. I'll give it a try and see how it works out. Awesome mod, by the way!


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