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11th Feb 2018, 12:20 PM
for me it'd be about 5 as the only sims i have who are childless are mainly CAS sims for prosperity challenges or children who died.
every aspiration has a chance of having a child in my game,if a romance sim wants to woohoo with 20 different sims they'll have a ton of babies a family sim will always get their 10 kids want fulfilled etc.
11th Feb 2018, 12:35 PM
I let them have as many as they want. And sometimes, they aren't the ones who want them. ;)
11th Feb 2018, 12:54 PM
Most families have 1-3. I love having children, but I try to avoid having too many households , but every now and then I'll allow a family to have 4-6 children, just for the fun of it. It's very rare that a Sim has no children whatsoever and mostly happens if a Sim dies before having had the chance to sire/birth any.
11th Feb 2018, 12:59 PM
4. Which means 2 sets of twins, generally speaking :)
11th Feb 2018, 1:04 PM
I would say that the average number of children in my game per couple would be 3( with 2 right on it's heels). I only one couple with 5 children; this couple also has 2 sets of fraternal twins. I let my Sims tell me if they want children and when they are done having children. Most roll the fear of having babies at 3, while there are some of those insane family Sims who occasionally roll a want for 10 children. Eventually they come their senses on their own. Just in case I make sure birth control is on. I've also discovered that some Sims are perfectly fine without having children.
11th Feb 2018, 1:04 PM
2 and 2 only. Didn't we just discuss this?
11th Feb 2018, 1:07 PM
Well you personally already answered this, but that other thread was about nestless heirs..sims..and I didn't get it. lol
11th Feb 2018, 1:28 PM
2 or 3, depending.
11th Feb 2018, 2:35 PM
I try to keep it at 2 but there's always some sort of joy with teasing the youngest sibling
11th Feb 2018, 2:53 PM
Fun question! At first i was going to just estimate, but then the more I thought about it the more I realized I have no idea what the average is. I would have guessed an average of around 1,5 child per household. Not all households have children, those that do usually have 1 or 2, and a few odd ones out have more than that. But how much do those odd ones out affect things? Turns out my estimating powers are not far off!
I only counted households with adults, as in my mind YAs do not count yet. In my hood I have 23 households I play and care about, and 5 that are there to own businesses but really function more like townies. If I only include the 23 that I actually play, the average number of children is 1,17. But if I include the pregnancies that are currently under way, or that I know will happen in a near future, it's 1,52. If I include the five that aren't played, numbers drop to 1,02 and 1,26 respectively. So yeah, average 1-2 children per households.
Guess I need to stop whining to myself that there's too many babies. Feels like every household I play there are babies and toddlers, but the math does not lie :lol:
11th Feb 2018, 3:06 PM
The average is typically only 1...unless TwoJeff's Triplets/Quads (random version) mod surprises me, or they have twins. Whatever the number, couples are pretty much done after having more than 1 child. Most households have some sort of fur family member (pet) to offset not having a bunch of children.
I am not a kid person in real life, but actually really enjoy the little sim pixels...within reason. So, none of my sims are ever going to have a boatload of children.
11th Feb 2018, 3:30 PM
How many children does my average Sim have?
That's not an easy question to answer. I think it may be something like 0.1! Lots of my Sims don't have children, but then, lots of them are still teens, or indeed still children themselves, and, because of my very slow playstyle, they take a very long time to age up. Maybe they'll have children of their own one day, but for the moment they're just enjoying life.
To be honest I sometimes find Family Sims quite difficult to relate to and to understand. It's not just the "have 10 babies" wants (though my first reaction when Jenny McBain expressed that want after giving birth to twins (her 3rd and 4th children) after a difficult pregnancy where she received massive support from me, her family, and indeed the wider community, was to say to her, "In your dreams!). It's more the attempts to control the lives of their children and grandchildren by planning their lives for them, even when they're adults: Go to university, get a good degree, get a good job (say, medicine!), get married to a nice girl/boy that we approve of, have children so we have lots of grandchildren. Can they not set their children free to live their own lives? I've been on the receiving end of too many well-intentioned but nonetheless interfering plans of that sort to feel much sympathy for the parents.
In practice I tend to find my own Family Sims a bit easier to play than I might expect. Julian's parents Martin and Manuela get lots of romantic wants for each other, which are quite easy to fulfil. But I do find LTWs like "Marry off X children" or "Get X children through college" manipulative, and I try to avoid them.
Sorry to give such a complicated answer to a simple question, but my own aspiration is definitely not Family. I've never had any wish to bring children of my own into the world. In fact sometimes I think that our world is so broken, that it could be wrong to bring children into it. I believe in loving and cherishing children once they are here, but the wish to create more completely evades me. My sister on the other hand has had 7 children (of whom one died in infancy). So I just say she's had my quota for me. Any procreative instincts that I do have are more than satisfied by occasionally allowing my Sims to produce children. I have surprised myself just how emotionally involved I can become then. When my first Sim babies were born (the McBain twins) I got carried away sharing the excitement with my Sims, and found myself almost crying for joy at the miracle of new life. I was far more emotional than I had ever been over any real life birth, possibly because I was far more intimately involved in the process.
The birth of a baby Sim is a special moment to be cherished. In my game it will continue to stay special by its rarity. I probably have witnessed fewer Sim births than anyone else here. Across all my 'hoods, I think there have only been 4 Sims born live in my game since I started playing in November 2012! So, yes. The average number of children per Sim in my game will I'm sure be very low.
11th Feb 2018, 4:58 PM
Andrew I had to check that you aren't me!
My sims, by and large, have 2-3, however many choose to not have kids at all. I've got ACR turned on, so sometimes I get surprises as well. For those sims that it doesn't make sense in my headcanon that they'd want kids (Georgia Newson, Nina Caliente) I turn on birth control immediately when they become teens or immediate when I start playing them.
Granted, I also random roll my sexual orientations as well, at 30% gay/bi 70% straight. I do end up with straight sims wanting no kids, and gay/bi sims who want a ton!
I'd say my average is closer to 2, to account for those few rabbit families.
11th Feb 2018, 5:02 PM
With the exception of a few outliers (the Brokes, Tinkers, Ottomai, Don Lothario's brood, and the Dreamer-Greenmans), the vast majority of my households have between 0 and 2 children. None of my gay couples have ever thrown a want for a child, so none of them have any (although they are stellar aunts, uncles, and cherished friends). I have a few straight, childless couples, as well as a couple of elderly couples who adopted later in life. I play according to wants (and level of responsibility, with ACR installed), so none of this is planned. Once a couple gets together, it's up to them to decide whether to plan on a child or to conceive by accident, or to not have kids at all. Personally, I like choices, so multiple kids per family ensures that my next generation of kids will have lots of playable potential mates to choose from, but if that doesn't happen, it's fine. I like the intimacy and the amount of detail I can glean from childless and one-child families. I always feel like I know those sims better.
11th Feb 2018, 6:11 PM
Well I love making Sim babies since I'll never do it in RL. Health problems and getting older, plus like @AndrewGloria I don't think the world NEEDS more children when there are so many that need good homes...maybe someday I'll foster kids.
But Sim families I wanna always see what the genetics give me. On average I have 2 to 3 kids unless the aspirations want more.
11th Feb 2018, 6:12 PM
I'd say probably about 3 for me. I love seeing how the genetics play out. I have every sim have at least 1 kid, even if they themselves don't keep it to take care of it. After 1, I leave it up to their wants if they have more.
11th Feb 2018, 6:16 PM
Usually 2-4, but my sims have been known to have plenty more. A few of my earlier families had over 10 kids...
My usual test lot currently has 10 babies (but 8 adults, and maxmotives regularly).
11th Feb 2018, 6:24 PM
Thanks to TwoJeff's Triplets/Quads mod, my Sims have at least 4-5 kids on average. I don't mind it for my current hood, as we need more Sims for economical growth.
11th Feb 2018, 7:18 PM
Depends on what my Triplets and Quads hack gives me when I hit Random most of the time. The average in a family is still two children, although I have to deal with surprise twins, triplets, and quads.
11th Feb 2018, 9:41 PM
i might start to make my sims have less children,the rate that my sims have kids mean that towns get overpopulated quick.
11th Feb 2018, 9:45 PM
Most have around 2-3, although I'll usually let them have however many they roll wants for. I do space them out though. No new babies until the last has aged up to child. Babies and toddlers are adorable in moderation, but a houseful is a little intense for my taste--I play this game to relax and have fun, after all!
11th Feb 2018, 9:55 PM
My sim couples have between 1 and 4 children, driven by the wants of those individual sims. I've been meaning to figure out how to edit LTWs so I can change "Marry Off 6 Children" to "Marry Off 4 Children" and actually make it a usable option in my game.
11th Feb 2018, 10:01 PM
Usually 2 or 3, never 1 unless I have them get pregnant when they're close to age. I use to have my couples have kids right away, but my gameplay has been changing so much over the years that now I rather have them focus more on their jobs/the house and then raise the kids. Moreover, I literally hate taking care of infants/toddlers, so sometimes I wait until they can afford a butler.
Also, since I play with the premades and their descendants, I make them have babies to pair them up when the grow. Unfortunately, my game loves me so much that in more than one occasion gave me twins when I wanted just one more kid... I love to keep a good balance of Sims for generations and I'm a control freak, so I like to have in mind all possible matches (although most of the times I end up matching them with somebody else).
Since in the second generation of my Pleasantview (I consider the first one all the adults that ship with the neighborhood when first played) got a bit to big, with about 8 couples to manage, I think I will have them have just one kid to make the rotaion-gameplay easy. Ah, of course, as I mentioned before, in the generation 3 I already got a couplet, just because I didn't have enough Sims :rofl: :rofl:
11th Feb 2018, 10:29 PM
I let my sims decide for themselves how many children they want. Most have around 1-3, with some outliers - The Hart family are quickly making their way to 10 (including 3 sets of twins), The Broke/Dreamer clan is at 10 (1 set of triplets) and Armando DeBateau has 12 (including 1 set of quads a set of triplets) with 3 different women. I also have a teen romance sim in my game who is 8 days to becoming an adult and already has 4 toddlers (although that does include a set of triplets) so I imagine he's going to have quite a few more during his adult and maybe even elder stages.
All my sims have children, but because of that rule a lot of sims end up on birth control if I can't trust them to stop on their own because I worry I'll end up with too many households. Rotations already take me months to complete.
11th Feb 2018, 10:42 PM
Two is average but some only have 1 and others occasionally 3 or more. I have risky woohoo. My romance sim just had oopsy twins which she immediately put up for adoption. They are in the orphanage. Another sim had an oopsy number 4 and since her other 3 are grown she secretly left and also gave this one up for adoption. Then my orphanage couple had the twin boys and triplet boys so they now have 5 of there own as well as those other 3. I may need to hire a worker since 3 new borns, 2 older toddlers and 3 younger toddlers is even too much for me at once. It's multiple central over there.
11th Feb 2018, 10:53 PM
More! My sims have More Kids on average! If they're young enough to get pregnant, then they need to have more.
I view the family sim LTWs like "Marry off Six Kids" "Graduate 3 kids from college" and "Have Six Grandkids" to be desires for their kids to be happy in their romantic lives, successful in education and thus in career, and have healthy families. A sim with a Marry off Six Kids LTW will have as many babies as they can, because not all their kids will get married necessarily--they have to want it for themselves--but I don't see that as necessarily manipulative, but as a desire that their children will find someone to love and marry. If they have ten or twelve kids, then it's very likely that six of them will find someone to marry. If they have four or five kids, then it's likely that three will graduate from college and that six grandkids will turn up. I can empathize with the desire for their kids to be happy in relationships and successful, but I try to never put them in the position where a sim who doesn't want to has to marry or graduate from college in order to fulfill a parental LTW. (Grandkids? Eh, that's going to happen whether or not you like, Miss Sim, because that's how my game's modded to be.)
11th Feb 2018, 11:47 PM
I have a big family mod, and only like playing families that are big. But the families are big because all the relatives live together, not because they have lots of babies. I don't let men get pregnant unless they are aliens, and lots of people never have kids. But some (especially Romance sims!) have LOTS of kids - who they either put up for adoption, or who get taken away. And THOSE babies/toddlers are adopted by relatives, gay couples, or elders.
11th Feb 2018, 11:50 PM
1. Tiny houses don't work well with more than 1 child.
12th Feb 2018, 12:23 AM
I do have pretty strict family planning going on in most of my hoods.
Usually the most is 2, unless they play with the 'trips and quads' hack..then they'll surprise me.
What I'll do then is turn off all fertility for that couple. "You had more than 2 so you're stuck with that."
Some couples are infertile after just one, even with birth control off.
But no family is going to go over 6 children on purpose. Do you realize how expensive college is? At the rate I charge for college, ($20k per child) 6 kids can cost $120,000 for college alone. Believe me, finding that kind of money for the average pixel family is extremely stressful for them.
Because all the kids go to college, like it or not!
12th Feb 2018, 1:22 AM
Only 1.6, which surprised me (I thought it would be around 2.5), but I have a lot of young couples who just haven't started their families yet, so the average will go up as those couples go from 'newlyweds' to 'parents'. Of those who actually have children, the average is 2.6, so my guess was close in that respect.
At the top end of the scale, Samantha Ottomas is expecting her 11th, three families have six children, and one has five.
12th Feb 2018, 1:29 AM
1. Tiny houses don't work well with more than 1 child.
I managed 2 plus a cat on a 1 by 1. :D one tile CC and bunk beds.
12th Feb 2018, 2:09 AM
Or you could look at my one and only upload here to date (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=562814). A 1x2 house with 3 bedrooms, a nursery, 2 bathrooms and many other modern amenities -- all for under §20,000 -- furnished!. I admit one bedroom is unfurnished, but what do you expect at this price? I've played it and it doesn't even feel cramped inside. It's the ideal starter home for a couple of young Family newlyweds planning on raising a big family.
CC free and Base Game compatible!
Sorry for blowing my own trumpet, but, if I don't blow it, who will?
12th Feb 2018, 2:28 AM
All of my sims are above average. :)
12th Feb 2018, 3:23 PM
Probably 4. I've never done the math. Largest family ever in my current hood was 10. They were all raised in a tiny 2-bedroom apartment. I also had one philanderer father 10 kids, but with 5 different women.
If my sims are childless or have only 1 child, it's usually on purpose. I have Risky Woohoo and they woohoo every time they get the want. If they have a baby want, I have them try for baby. The ones on birth control get to choose if they keep it (usually I flip a coin). As Gen 3-4 become adults in my hood, I'm going to start being more selective. At first, I wanted a diverse populace. Now I'm worried about inbreeding.
12th Feb 2018, 5:09 PM
Over the years the numbers have degraded. At first all my Sims had as much children as possible (and were completely exhaused and couldn't have any contact with their children after learning how to do theit homework, because the next toddlers needed them), but over the last real life years they started to have less and less children, to the point were they could have a life outside of diapers, learning the toddler skills and surviving. The first time I made them have a date, instead of just trying for a baby (while the baby cried and the toddler screamed and the kids needed help and everything needed to be cleaned), was wonderful. Finally they had a life.
For the numbers, in my first Simming years they almost had around 10 children (who all had 1 child just because I wanted a small 'hood, because 10 children was tradition :rolleyes: ). There are times I only play one household in an otherwise empty 'hood, so as less children as possible. In my current 'hood the first generation had all around 4 children. Now their children are growing up... I'm curious how many they will have.
13th Feb 2018, 12:53 AM
I managed 2 plus a cat on a 1 by 1. :D one tile CC and bunk beds.
Well bunk beds kind of changes it a bit. Y'know stack 'em on top of each other like corpses. I don't have Bunk beds or CC Bunk Beds so a 10x10 lot becomes very crowed after all the furnishings I personally do to it. ...I decorate too much. :giggler:
13th Feb 2018, 1:06 AM
I like for my Sims to have 2 kids ( a boy and a girl ) if the Sims is ready to give birth and they already have a girl or boy I will come out of my game ( not save ) and try again until I get the sex I want.
Many years ago I had a family that had two set of twins, plus another kid after the twins, it drove me nutty trying to keep up with the going on of those children. Since then two is my limit. ;)
13th Feb 2018, 10:01 PM
generally I plan for each sim/"couple" to have equal amounts of sons and daughters; whether the offspring are through Try For Baby or through adoption or through alien abduction.
14th Feb 2018, 12:41 AM
4. Which means 2 sets of twins, generally speaking :)When a Sim becomes pregnant for the first time in your game, does she set up a room as a nursery with two cribs?
14th Feb 2018, 1:34 PM
In most cases, so many that sometimes I do not even remember their names. It is not my fault! My Family sims usually roll a want to have 10 children! What am I supposed to do? I am just a silly girl who wants to please them *shrugs*
14th Feb 2018, 1:37 PM
Not at all, @AndrewGloria. Believe me, there was a time that I was looking very hard for a reason. I could not find one, so I decided to enjoy the twins.
No mods - I don't use a lot of mods anyway. And certainly no cheesecake.
Once in a blue moon, there is a single birth - which always confuses me - should I be happy, or sad? :)
14th Feb 2018, 2:28 PM
I was going to estimate this but then I decided to work it out properly for my old Widespot 'hood. Here are some stats for my Widespot.
Non-Prison Households With Adults/Elders: 18
Current Babies: 2
Current Toddlers: 4
Current Children: 9
Current Teens: 10
Current Total Babies-Teens: 25
Mean Babies-Teens Per Household: 1.19
Mean Babies-Teens Per Non-Prison Household With Adults/Elders: 1.39
Born-In-Game Offspring: 44
Range Of Born-In-Game Offspring: 0-5
Quite a few of my sims didn't/don't have any children. Notable sims with no children include Virginia Beech, Woody Weiss, Dixie & Jo-Ann Land and Delta Land. Quite a few sims/couples have just the one child. The highest number of born-in-game children for any sim/couple is five children. Andy Bellum had five children, two with with Helen Wheels and three with Ida Juana Knowe (triplets!). Cliff Notes & Hugh Knowe had five children between them, all through alien abduction, though Dun Knowe tragically died as a child in a garden fire. Scot & Sue Land had five children from two pregnancies; Sue died in childbirth giving birth to their twins (and it's quite possible that, had she survived the pregnancy, they would've had one more pregnancy before she went through the menopause). Theodore Ottomas has five children - one as a teen as a result of alien abduction as well as two sets of twins with his fiancée, Star Weiss - Star's ideal number of children (according to the calculations I use with ACR) is eight, so with six more days before she goes through the menopause they may well have more children in the future.
14th Feb 2018, 5:46 PM
Really it depends on the sim and what they want (or if ROS decides to give me more babies - in which case my sims have no choice!), but I'd say despite that my average sim leans to around two or three babies. :D
14th Feb 2018, 7:34 PM
what is ROS?
14th Feb 2018, 9:43 PM
ROS = Random Occurrence Scenarios
14th Feb 2018, 11:38 PM
Even though my hood has only managed to get through about 10 days of gameplay so far (playing rotationally), I figured I'd do the math at this point to find the actual averages. :deal:
Number of adults/elders in the hood: 27*
Number of teens: 0**
Number of children: 2
Number of toddlers: 7
Number of babies: 5
*One elder female has an adult child.
**the hood started with 2 teens who are the only preexisting offspring in all of Four Corners-Bitville, as there are no children, toddlers, babies, or existing pregnancies at the start. Both of these teens have now aged to YA.
So... 2 children + 7 toddlers + 5 babies + 2 YA offspring + 1 adult offspring = 17 total offspring / 27 eligible sims [adults + elders] = 0.6296
...but that doesn't account for the fact that most of these sims are producing offspring as couples rather than on their own.
It would probably be more helpful to look at the eligible sims [adults + elders] and how many offspring each one has at present:
Eligible sims with 0 offspring: 6
Eligible sims with 1 offspring: 14
Eligible sims with 2 offspring: 3
Eligible sims with 3 offspring: 4
Note: currently no sim in my hood has more than 3 offspring
0x6 + 1x14 + 2x3 + 3x4 = 32 / 27 = 1.185 offspring per sim
As the hood ages, that number will rise as most or even all of the sims with zero offspring will have at least one in their lifetime.
15th Feb 2018, 3:48 AM
Do Adult children count? I often have three generations in a household, it's pretty much the norm as it keeps the household count down and a lot of the long-held households are just too comfortable to leave anyway....
Anyhow, I just did a count of current babies, toddlers, kids and teens and it works out to a lowly 1.35 average per household. Which surprised me as it seems low. So a different stat: for households that currently have children the average is 1.68. Which strikes me as being more useful
Hm. Most marriages have at least one child. Every now and then you get a high fertility family sim who wants the six and they usually try to get it even if they won't live to see them all married because of odd sims lifespans, but hey, it's the journey and not the destination amirite? I also have a sixpack family guy who is content with two and has fears but never wants of having more and I am good with that too. Family size variety is more interesting.
16th Feb 2018, 7:24 PM
Usually not more then 3. I can't handle more haha
16th Feb 2018, 10:33 PM
Do Adult children count?I'd say yes. I took OP's question to mean, "How many children, on average, has each Sim on my game had, from their own birth until now?" I took it on a per Sim basis rather than per couple, and I assumed that all Sims in my game were included in that total. That includes all toddlers, children and teens, who, needless to say, have had no children of their own yet. (That's not entirely true -- one teenage couple in Baldrair Bluffs have adopted a little girl through the Social Work department.) And should I count townies and NPCs? Well, there are no NPC parents in my game (so far), but there is at least one townie parent in Veronaville with a couple of teenage children. (I made them in CAS and didn't delete all the family ties when I made them townies.) So I think the very low estimated average number of children (my post #12 above) is really because the number of "possible" parents in my calculation is so large. In fact I never calculated the average -- it would have taken far too long -- I just guessed! I couldn't even do a per couple calculation: not all my parents are in relationships. Gloria is famously (indeed perhaps gloriously!) a single parent.
So while it's true that I can find some of the wants of Family Sims hard to relate to, that's not the real reason why my estimated number of children per Sim is so low. It's more just that so many Sims could, just conceivably, have children one day. As for how many actually will have children, and how many children they will have, I think you might be better asking the old gypsy fortune teller rather than asking me. I have never claimed to be able to foretell the future! ;)
17th Feb 2018, 12:11 AM
Mean, mode or median?
Mean would be about 2.4 children (range from 0-19).
Mode would be 0.
Median would be 1.
20th Feb 2018, 12:53 AM
How many? With some sims, I let them continue having children until they get a male (or female, depending on the neighbourhood) heir. With others I let them fulfill their want of 3 or 6 kids. Mostly, though, it's about 2. Not many of my sim couples have no children at all but lately I've let them decide, and if no want rolls, they don't try.
25th Feb 2018, 10:53 AM
Either 1 or 2, normally one boy and one girl if I CAS create.
25th Feb 2018, 12:09 PM
My sims can have between 1 and 4 kids but I let them have as much as they want... till a doctor arrives in the hood.
Mayor Garance (romance/knowledge) had 10. :help:
Now that the doctor moved in Bonneville, birth control is allowed. I'm expecting less baby making.
25th Feb 2018, 1:11 PM
In average there is 1 child per household, put my pairs do have around 2 children, so about half of my households have 2 kids, but most have the same father - Paul.
25th Feb 2018, 4:06 PM
I haven't started playing my megahood yet (doing makeovers) but from past games and what I think i'll end up doing, I think the average will be around 3. I like families in the game, a couple kids for most Sims. Though that'll just be the average, some may have as little as 1 (maybe rarely 0 but usually at least 1) to as many as 10 or so if I decide to let some Sims do the 10 kids want thing, though that many won't be that often :lol:
25th Feb 2018, 5:25 PM
Usually three. Two around the same age, and one much younger child born after I realize I'm not ready to let the Sims become empty nesters.
25th Feb 2018, 11:21 PM
I let ACR decide (mostly), whether or not sims try for a child, which tends to give on average 2-3. Only children are rare, although not impossible; 4 or more tend only to occur when one or both parents are family sims, or the Trips&Quads mod throws out extras! The latter usually occurs when I least want it - I've had quads born in a tiny house with barely enough room for a single child; that family had to move quick sharpish!
Sometimes I'll push for 6 if a parent has that LTW, but they have to roll the "10 children" want for me to even consider it. Even then they do need to be well short of elderhood for me to attempt it - I prefer biological children over adoption unless the sim actively wants to adopt. I love seeing how the genetics mesh together. :)
25th Feb 2018, 11:35 PM
Two on average but some families have up to six and some have none. I don't want overpopulation in my world so I base it off of how many children are currently in the world.
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