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PharaohHound
21st May 2017, 7:32 PM
Greetings, simmers!

Here at MTS we've had some great stuff in the works for a while, and we're very excited to finally share a preview for our brand new tutorial browser system, Project CRUMB.

WHAT IS CRUMB?
Create (upload tutorial), Read (view tutorial), Update (edit screen) and Many Browse

MTS has tons of information about modding the sims. And apart from MTS, there's innumerable tutorials spread across other platforms like tumblr and other sims sites. Having so much information available to creators is great, but finding the right tutorial can be difficult when things are spread all across the internet. That is what CRUMB is intended to solve: it will be a single, centralized index of tutorials and modding info from all platforms, offering a user-friendly browsing interface which can be filtered and searched by game, software used, kind of modding, and more.

Uploading a tutorial
Tutorials can be uploaded to MTS, or added to the database from any external website. During the uploading process the submitter is asked to tag the tutorial so that it can be easily found. For example:

http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/76597_170521173150crumb_create_tut_preview.png

Browsing tutorials
All the tutorials will be categorized in the tutorials browser, so you select what you are looking for using the filters. For example, you can select TS3 tutorials, which use Blender, and are focused on object meshing.
:here: Preview Tutorial Browser (http://www.modthesims.info/tutorials.php?&regen=1)

Reading a tutorial
Tutorials which are hosted on MTS will be viewable in a brand new tutorial viewer. In addition to the new overview layout, the tutorials are shown in a tabbed view for easy navigation.

Looks awesome! When's this happening?

Project CRUMB will launch on June 14th, 2017. We are looking forward to seeing everyone's submissions!

Inge Jones
21st May 2017, 7:59 PM
Good idea!

Zarathustra
21st May 2017, 8:08 PM
Sounds good! If we've already posted tutorials, will we need to update them to work with this, or will they just be incorporated into it automatically?

CatherineTCJD
21st May 2017, 9:38 PM
GREAT! I've been working on a tute for S2 split-level houses. It kinda stalled because I'm not sure how to upload a tutorial - this may be just the kick-in-the-seat I need :luff:

AGuyCalledPi
21st May 2017, 9:46 PM
Not to be a party pooper or anything, but putting "Project" in front of anything at all makes it sound more exciting than it has any right to be. Not saying you should reconsider the name, but it wouldn't hurt. I was kind of expecting that it'd be some sort of multiplayer mod for TS2 or like a Frankenstein-d remake of some shelved Sims game that you pulled off EA's internal servers with your l33t h4x0r skillz.

PharaohHound
21st May 2017, 10:44 PM
@Zarathustra - I'll have to double check with @Delphy , since he's the brains behind this project. I'm honestly not certain if tutorials posted to MTS will be automatically vworped into the system or not. I'm just the person who writes news posts, and periodically prods D with a stick to make sure he's alive and still working.

Also, I'd just like to leave this here:

http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/76602_170521214350project.png

maybesomethingdunno
21st May 2017, 11:04 PM
Rejected names included:

"Operation: Find That $#@!"
"Tactical Kitten Gifs"
"Divine Secrets of the Klingon Sisterhood"
"The Sean Connery Experience"


I'm no longer in charge of giving things names....but hear me out!

"Operation: Find That $#@!" made sense because it dealt with finding tutorials.

"Tactical Kitten Gifs" because who doesn't like cat gifs? I certainly don't.

"Divine Secrets of the Klingon Sisterhood" is the classic tale of hilarious sadness set in a sleepy Klingon parish. A group of lifelong friends fighters stage a rather unorthodox intervention to help a young playwright unravel the truth about her complicated, eccentric warrior mother, find forgiveness and acceptance honor, and let go of her painful past.

"The Sean Connery Experience" would have just been an excuse to do Sean Connery impressions and quote things from the celebrity Jeopardy SNL skits.

PharaohHound
21st May 2017, 11:13 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/e3C4pNKkr9rji/giphy.gif

Damn, Divine Secrets of the Klingon Sisterhood sounds way better than the boring human version of that book.

MSD is in charge of all project names from now on.

AGuyCalledPi
22nd May 2017, 12:12 AM
Also, I'd just like to leave this here:
http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/76602_170521214350project.png
You, my friend, are seemingly wholly unaware of the concept of marketing. Words don't carry meaning; they carry feelings. Words carry associations. Projects aren't meticulously planned, they're mysterious and exciting. Projects are tested in wind tunnels. Projects promise "experiences". Experiences bring the user in touch with their inner personality. Anything can be a project, as long as it's exciting and hella mysterious.

You should call it something like TutoREAL or something. I came up with that in 3 seconds, and it's already better. Maybe call it SimDidact. It's a place you can drop tutorials - call it Dropt. And if you set up a website, always make sure the TLD checks out with the last two letters like YouTu.be or Redd.it. Speaking of projects that aren't what they were made out to be: Project V.ie.

PharaohHound
22nd May 2017, 12:22 AM
https://media.tenor.co/images/169b9eade3ef3015b7ad574b6b2607c7/tenor.gif

Sadly, I'm not in charge of project names anymore. Or whatever they are, since apparently they're not projects. Go see if you can persuade MSD. And do it someplace else. Will not be accepting any more debates about the name in this thread.

I will, however, be accepting further suggestions for Klingon versions of popular fiction and classic literature. To get the ball rolling: The Gagh Worms of Wrath, Anna Klingonina.

ETA: A Brave New Worf.

ETA again: A Farewell to Bat'leths. Someone stop me.

croiduire
22nd May 2017, 12:59 AM
As a total noob, I love this. I have spent too many hours searching for the specific tutorial I need. Especially frustrating is discovering the one that sounds perfect leads to a dead link, and I hope those lost tutorials can be reuploaded here. I have one request: once upon a time all the CEPs in existence were on MTS (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=92541) (on that page or one of its previous incarnations). That is emphatically no longer the case. Could there be a section in the project that lists and makes available in one place all the CEPs that have been made since Numenor's last update?

Zarathustra
22nd May 2017, 1:22 AM
The Picture of Dorian Kang

L'Morte de Kahless

Sto Vo Kor Lost

And of course, we all know that our Shakespeare is just a translation from the original Klingon already! ;)

AGuyCalledPi
22nd May 2017, 1:40 AM
I know absolutely nothing about Klingon except for the fact that Kirk's accent is apparently exactly the same as Klingon Emmett Brown's.

croiduire
22nd May 2017, 10:57 AM
Another suggestion (can you tell I'm super enthusiastic about this?) When coding the links page can there be a listing by problems? Like, to use my current dilemma, "Texture is too dark/light", which would link to one or more tutorials that address the issue? Often and often the name of the tutorial doesn't quite convey the information it contains. I think many simmers would find a problem list very user friendly.

Volvenom
22nd May 2017, 12:00 PM
A project is like a wip, it's not finished. I would like to see my project of posting this tutorial finished the moment I posted it. I would rather not go back later on, for that reason I'm voting for "Operation: Find That $#@!", if we do have a vote that is. I might also be me not liking projects, the word that is, for some reason it sounds like an unwanted chore or something.

The other options are either bloody dated or makes no sence to me whatever.

"The Sean Connery Experience" ... I mean like what! lol, how old are people on this forum, and what the heck does it mean. "Operation: find this shit" is what I do all day: google, search and find the wrong shit most of the time.

I also like voting for the best tutorial, because it's probably going to end up with tons of unwanted shit very fast, if it takes on. Better prepare for bunch of shit than having to sort that out later on.

AGuyCalledPi
22nd May 2017, 12:41 PM
"The Sean Connery Experience" ... I mean like what! lol, how old are people on this forum, and what the heck does it mean. "Operation: find this shit" is what I do all day: google, search and find the wrong shit most of the time.
Bloody mods couldn't get it right, either. It's obviously "The Sean Connery Exschperiensh".

Inge Jones
22nd May 2017, 1:17 PM
I wish this thread would stay on topic, assuming it's going to be the focus for collaborative efforts.

_Anora_
22nd May 2017, 1:51 PM
This will be immensely helpful. Oftentimes, I go looking for a tutorial on something, and will find a great one, but it will use Blender or another program I have no experience with. In which case, I spend more time translating the working terms than I do actually working on the project. Even more unfortunate, I use 3DS for most projects sims and other, and it's not at all a popular tool to do sims-meshing because it's so expensive. I have the student product, though, and have gotten too comfortable with it.

Tashiketh
22nd May 2017, 3:11 PM
Another suggestion (can you tell I'm super enthusiastic about this?) When coding the links page can there be a listing by problems? Like, to use my current dilemma, "Texture is too dark/light", which would link to one or more tutorials that address the issue? Often and often the name of the tutorial doesn't quite convey the information it contains. I think many simmers would find a problem list very user friendly.

I'm not sure how you'd actually categorise "Texture is too dark/light" though - how would you normally find that? If you can't categorise it, then it makes listing it difficult. :)

Tashiketh
22nd May 2017, 3:13 PM
Sounds good! If we've already posted tutorials, will we need to update them to work with this, or will they just be incorporated into it automatically?

Well, the tutorial "viewer" is like the old articles system. It basically takes an existing thread and formats it in a new way. So it's technically possible to have old tutorials be viewable in the new system - the only thing they'd need is the appropriate games/tools/etc/etc added which can be done after the fact.

k2m1too
22nd May 2017, 11:10 PM
I pretty much don't care what it's called as long as it exists. But for the record, "A rose by any other name is 'Operation: Find That $#@!'". (That's in the original Klingon version of Romeo and Juliet. Look it up!)

croiduire
23rd May 2017, 3:34 AM
I'm not sure how you'd actually categorise "Texture is too dark/light" though - how would you normally find that? If you can't categorise it, then it makes listing it difficult. :)

I was thinking a system akin to the medical symptom finder where a list of symptoms links to possible causations. In like fashion, a list of problems links to the tutorial most likely to address that specific issue. For example, in the Object Creation - Recolouring forum, @mustluvcatz linked me to the TXMT tutorials by @Pixelhate. I had no idea they were applicable to my problem, and I would not have sought them out on my own, but they are really helpful. Another example, "Texture looks one-dimensional" might link to tutorials on shading and on bump mapping. Does that make sense?

Intell
23rd May 2017, 4:58 PM
I like the idea. It's better structured than what most sites do, even if there is still, in my opinion, improvements to do.

Do you plan to accept tutorials not in English? (With specific tags)

AGuyCalledPi
23rd May 2017, 5:59 PM
Do you plan to accept tutorials not in English? (With specific tags)
I was going to say that that would be a good idea under the condition that the tutorial in the language other than English would be deliberately written in that language. But then I remembered that you can't accidentally speak a language. Even if it's Spanish or something. Spanish always seems accidental to me. It's just not a language that anyone would speak while entirely level-headed. Kinda like Russian or something.

Tell you what though, you can be an accidental asshole. I'm living proof right here. What should have been a brief attempt to convey the great aesthetic value and coherency of such fine languages as French, German, Dutch, Swedish or maybe Thai or whatever, ended up sounding more like some niche kind of linguistically motivated racism.

Corylea
23rd May 2017, 6:47 PM
This sounds great; thanks for everything you guys do for Sims players! :up:

I made a Starfleet career (http://nene.modthesims.info/download.php?t=580458) for The Sims 3, and I'd love to port it to The Sims 4, but I haven't found any good tutorials for Sims 4 careers. I wait with bated breath to see if you guys turn one up!

AGuyCalledPi
23rd May 2017, 6:54 PM
I made a Starfleet career (http://nene.modthesims.info/download.php?t=580458) for The Sims 3, and I'd love to port it to The Sims 4, but I haven't found any good tutorials for Sims 4 careers. I wait with bated breath to see if you guys turn one up!
I would just love to see TNG uniforms for it's 30th anniversary. Somebody needs to get on that because it'd be a damn great match with Into The Future. Even the fashion checks out.

ankoyume
23rd May 2017, 11:13 PM
Wonderful news ! I'm really bad at researching, it will help a lot.

LaurellKH
25th May 2017, 6:53 AM
I really only want to learn what I am interested in atm. I hate being told "go look for this and read up on this." I will just fall asleep when I read if it is not what I am interested in. Thank you for this project I am very interested in reading the exact thing I want to know and not hours sifting through what is not on my mind atm. Looking forward to this!

komdui
25th May 2017, 3:22 PM
I was going to say that that would be a good idea under the condition that the tutorial in the language other than English would be deliberately written in that language. But then I remembered that you can't accidentally speak a language. Even if it's Spanish or something. Spanish always seems accidental to me. It's just not a language that anyone would speak while entirely level-headed. Kinda like Russian or something.

Tell you what though, you can be an accidental asshole. I'm living proof right here. What should have been a brief attempt to convey the great aesthetic value and coherency of such fine languages as French, German, Dutch, Swedish or maybe Thai or whatever, ended up sounding more like some niche kind of linguistically motivated racism.
hi! thank you fro this post

d4RE
25th May 2017, 10:18 PM
This is really great news. A much-needed project.

As a newb self-taught creator, I second the comments concerning the difficulties of researching certain aspects of modding. anecdote: It actually took me 3 weeks to find fisheyes' slot tutorial, even though I found several references to it on this site and others. Luckily, MSD replied to someone's thread and included a current link to the tutorial, or I'd still be looking.

Having a more centralized system in place, even if only as a starting point, for finding tutorials is a welcome addition to the site.

HelloSims324
27th May 2017, 2:53 PM
Aboslutely love this idea! Now it will be a lot easier to do some modding a lot easier than spending hours to get the information I need. Just you should check and vote for the best tutorials, because there will be bad tutorials too.

This feature is surely welcome on the site. Greaat! :lol:

CasualGamerGirl
28th May 2017, 12:13 PM
Wonderful, Wonderful Idea!!
Having spent many hours online searching for modding tutorials I can say they are very hard to come by especially the ones that actually make sense for dummies like me.
And since I'm super clever and witty (other than modding of course) and can imagine myself saying this in a haughty English accent, I think you should use MY project title name; I'm Tutor Dumb Me
It took me a few more seconds than a minute to come up with so I'm sure I've proven my point in the clever department.

Kankritty
28th May 2017, 12:23 PM
What will happen to the pages on Sims Wiki? Will they become obsolete, what are the plans for those, if any?

Gremily_
28th May 2017, 6:37 PM
Really love this. I feel that having these resources easily and readily available will increase motivation for new creators! :bunny:

CrazySheep808
29th May 2017, 9:10 AM
This looks great, thanks heaps, but I'm posting because this thread is the most entertaining thing I've seen all day!

From Klingon Romeo and Juliet to niche linguistically motivated racism... you guys sure you aren't comedians?!

LOL. Thanks :)

PharaohHound
29th May 2017, 10:06 PM
What will happen to the pages on Sims Wiki? Will they become obsolete, what are the plans for those, if any?

We will be working towards migrating Wiki content over to MTS proper. We may be recruiting some volunteers to help out with this, depending on how large the scope ends up being.

maxon
5th Jun 2017, 1:21 PM
"Tactical Kitten Gifs" because who doesn't like cat gifs? I certainly don't.
You don't??? <is confused>

maybesomethingdunno
6th Jun 2017, 12:49 AM
You don't??? <is confused>

A malfunction with my neural implant interacting with the Universal Translator. I reconfigured the power cufflinks and it should be good now. I most certainly do like cat gifs. I don't dislike them. :)

MurderPrincessK
26th Jun 2017, 5:28 AM
So what happened to this project? Just delayed or DOA? Seriously I thought it was a great idea to try updating and organizing all the tutorial floating around out there, but the first post gives a launch date of the 14th... it's now the 26th, so I'm curious.

PharaohHound
1st Jul 2017, 2:40 PM
So what happened to this project? Just delayed or DOA? Seriously I thought it was a great idea to try updating and organizing all the tutorial floating around out there, but the first post gives a launch date of the 14th... it's now the 26th, so I'm curious.

D's been running into a few unforeseen technical issues before launch. But this is still happening, and I will keep you all updated the more I know.

Kankritty
2nd Jul 2017, 6:44 PM
Keep us posted! I'm willing to help out if you need anyone.

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@PharaohHound

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