View Full Version : Clarification re. Dead Sites

10th May 2015, 11:00 AM
Hi all,

We've just updated the creator guidelines to clarify that if you're using content from a dead site, and the creator's policy isn't posted anywhere else, you can assume (on MTS) that they're happy for their stuff to be edited and included with uploads. If a site we all thought was dead gets resurrected and the creator asks us to remove uploads which violate their resurrected policy, you may be asked to remove stuff from your files and link to the site instead, but we'll try to avoid that.

This isn't really a change, since we've been doing it like this for a while, but it wasn't explicitly stated in the guidelines before. Hopefully the policy is clearer now, and please ask if you've still got any questions. :)

Enjoy your weekend,

Thranduil Oropherion
11th May 2015, 1:33 AM
Thanks for this, it certainly helped with my dilemma about uploading anything with, for example, Luna's stuff.

13th May 2015, 7:15 PM
Awesome thank you for including this.

17th May 2015, 4:30 PM
Thank you for this clarification.
I'm currently working on some cupcakes with Exnem's mesh. So glad I can!

18th May 2015, 12:30 AM
Oh good, I hope creators take advantage of this! I only have the Sims 2 because when the Sims 4 came out, EA was offering it for free. It's so old that many of the sites people used resources from are gone but a lot of new mods still use those resources.

18th May 2015, 2:24 PM
What about content that was created by non-active members that require meshes from inactive sites? Since it is O.K. to now share these meshes are there plans to update the content with the missing meshes or do we just continue to put in a WCIF request? If the answer is the latter (WCIF thread) is it O.K. to share the meshes within that thread?

18th May 2015, 2:49 PM
I'd say that posting links to the meshes in the comments would be fine, yeah. We won't go through and add links to the main text 'cause it'd be a huge amount of work for the moderators, but creators are welcome to attach meshes from dead sites themselves, including ones which were posted in the comments originally.

18th May 2015, 7:40 PM
Awesome, thank you.

18th May 2015, 8:40 PM
I asked Luna about linking to TSR while it was still a paysite, and she said it was all ok. I don't know, but from that I thought she would be fine with anyone helping her out uploading lost stuff. I do so much understand the feelings she might have after losing all her meshes though, so it's hard to know for sure. I did try to get in contact with her on email, but didn't get any answer.

Thanks for clearing this up.

If anyone would like to help me out on the missing meshes and post them in comments, I'll gladly download and reupload as part of the attachement on a lot.

31st May 2015, 2:47 AM
Does this mean if a creator is no longer creating , we are able to edit the meshes etc and reupload on mts ?

What defines a site as "dead"

31st May 2015, 3:30 AM
Good question @kiwi_sims4
I just had a reread of the Creator Guidelines and it's not really stated in there what's considered "dead". If it's an MTS creator, it does state that it has to have been at least 1 month since that creator logged in here. But for other sites it doesn't say. Maybe one of the admins @Nysha @HugeLunatic @Leefish can pop in and shed some light one that? The only real answer I can give is if a creator has posted that they're done creating, and then actually stops making new stuff, then it should be safe to say that's a dead site. (Does this mean you're going to upload here again? :) ) nm that question, i know the answer

31st May 2015, 3:40 AM
I guess when one has to ask oneself whether or not a site is dead, it might still have a pulse =P. To me a dead site is dead when there is no doubt about its dead-ness.

One way to make sure might be asking in WCIF whether anyone has seen the content of some may-be-dead-or-perhaps-not Schrödinger site having been moved elsewhere or the creator being active elsewhere .. I guess that would sometimes happen when people post their stuff on "free website" deals with limited potential.

31st May 2015, 3:50 AM
Just thought of this: Simscave has the sharing forum. Some of the sites aren't dead, they just have unavailable stuff. But there is a thread for dead sites - so if it's in there, it's dead for sure. The Graveyard too - aren't those all dead sites? (To answer my own question, yes and no. For example: they have Betsy4Arts files there but she recently came back to BPS and updated her site. But most of them are dead sites.)

8th Jun 2015, 12:57 PM
A dead site is a site which is no longer online or accessible. :)

11th Jun 2015, 12:43 PM
I have a question on this topic. If a MTS creator has the policy that one should ask before using their stuff but that creator has left the community, does that count as an eternal no to using stuff, or is it okay because it's no longer possible to ask?