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HystericalParoxysm
13th Oct 2013, 3:39 PM
Put aside everything that MTS is now, and ignore entirely the way we do things at the moment.

Now, imagine the ultimate site for downloading custom content. How would it function? What features would it have? What would it feel like to use? Are there sites (not just for Sims, but for other games, or even just downloading in general) that already do things in a way that you like? Are there features and aspects we currently have that you think would work better if we just changed them in a certain way? Or things we do now that you think are wrongity wrong and should be thrown out?

Tell us what you think - even if it's complaints - as long as you're reasonably courteous. If you are someone who downloads custom content for TS2/TS3, we really want to hear from you! Small ideas, big ideas, and everything in between, we want to know your thoughts and feelings, so we can make MTS the best site it can be!

(And if you're a creator AND a downloader, please chime in on the other thread (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=513709) too!)

Coley-Stars
13th Oct 2013, 4:16 PM
Put aside everything that MTS is now, and ignore entirely the way we do things at the moment.

Now, imagine the ultimate site for downloading custom content. How would it function? What features would it have? What would it feel like to use? Are there sites (not just for Sims, but for other games, or even just downloading in general) that already do things in a way that you like? Are there features and aspects we currently have that you think would work better if we just changed them in a certain way? Or things we do now that you think are wrongity wrong and should be thrown out?

Tell us what you think - even if it's complaints - as long as you're reasonably courteous. If you are someone who downloads custom content for TS2/TS3, we really want to hear from you! Small ideas, big ideas, and everything in between, we want to know your thoughts and feelings, so we can make MTS the best site it can be!

(And if you're a creator AND a downloader, please chime in on the other thread (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=513709) too!)

Sometimes, I don't know whether it's just me, but I struggle to use the filter to find certain items. It would be nice to have an easier to use filtering system.

Also, maybe a "quick download" button.

And, again I don't know whether it's just me, but sometimes when I've been searching I see something but possibly don't download it for whatever reason and when I go back to it it may not always be there? Maybe, that's not a website thing though but creators removing their stuff?

Sometimes I download stuff which I've read thoroughly and I ensure that it will be compatible with my game but when it gets to the sims 3 launcher (lots) there's often warning signs to say that it's not compatible or proxies will replace some items. Is there anyway to have a more vigourous search when accepting creations to ensure that the information is all correct? Or, again, would that be something the creators' need to deal with if the downloaders' tell them?

HystericalParoxysm
13th Oct 2013, 4:23 PM
Coley-Stars -

Improved filters are on the plan already and high priority. :)

What would a "quick download" button do - where would it be placed?

Maybe you were filtering differently? We don't often remove uploads once they're up, so I"m guessing it was either filters or as you say, the creator removed it - we have no control over people removing their own content.

I'm not sure what detection we have on the TS3 stuff - I know for TS2 it was possible to detect EPs included, but for TS3, I think we can only see the patch version the house was made with. That's something Delphy would have to look into, if that's encoded in a readable way in sims3pack files.

Queen of France
13th Oct 2013, 4:35 PM
Ever since I started using Delicious,I kind of wish for every website to use its tagging system. Current search system is good, but being able to pick several tags from a bundle, and to pick which tags to exclude from the search, would be amazing.
But then, I can't imagine how long it would take the staff to pick and agree on standard tags, and I can't exactly imagine moderators tagging old entries by hand. And there's lots of downloads posted by inactive users. So as nice as it sounds in theory, it seems like it would be very difficult.

Nysha
13th Oct 2013, 4:40 PM
Well, we do have the Additional Parameters section of the filters, which is sort of like tags - although you can only filter positively (i.e. "give me everything tagged x", not "give me everything except what's tagged y"). And actually we did enlist a bunch of site helpers to go through and retroactively tag all old downloads when we added that system - CatOfEvilGenius is a saint :p .

Are there other differences between the search params system here and Delicious tagging?

Queen of France
13th Oct 2013, 6:16 PM
Well, we do have the Additional Parameters section of the filters, which is sort of like tags - although you can only filter positively (i.e. "give me everything tagged x", not "give me everything except what's tagged y"). And actually we did enlist a bunch of site helpers to go through and retroactively tag all old downloads when we added that system - CatOfEvilGenius is a saint :p .

Are there other differences between the search params system here and Delicious tagging?

I don't think so, no? The ability to pick tags/exclude them is the only thing I can think of that is worth mentioning. Its other strong quality is how fast and easily one can tag stuff, but it wouldn't matter with submitting things, where one has to wait a couple of days for the items to be uploaded, anyway.
(now that I went and took a good look at Delicious, I don't think excluding stuff is actually possible. Or I don't know how to do that. But I still think it would be a very useful feature!)

Nysha
13th Oct 2013, 6:22 PM
I agree - we're also hoping, one day, to set things up so you can view, for example, all sections apart from Lots & Housing, which will be awesome. It's a big job though, and probably a long way off, unfortunately.

efolger997
13th Oct 2013, 7:13 PM
Actually MTS is my favorite site for downloading because the filters actually make sense and are easy to use. My only complaint is what Coley-Stars mentioned, that sometimes creators remove their stuff. I don't know if that can be controlled (I'm guessing not) and I can usually find something similar elsewhere. But overall I prefer here for downloads over Tumblr, Blogger, TSR, and just about everywhere else.

Avatari
13th Oct 2013, 7:21 PM
I prefer the site remain dedicated to Sims only. Thank you

HystericalParoxysm
13th Oct 2013, 7:29 PM
efolger997 - Technically, it COULD be controlled, but it's not something that we would want to control, as there have been other sites that don't allow people to remove content once uploaded and they have gotten a lot of complaints about it. As far as this site is concerned, a creator's content remains their own, and if they want to take it down, upload it elsewhere, or make it unavailable entirely, that's up to them. Unfortunate, and we certainly don't -like- when it happens because then links go dead and something nice is no longer downloadable, but we don't want to hold peoples' stuff hostage, y'know? And I don't know of any way around that which balances the creator's rights with our desire to keep the stuff.

Avatari - I think perhaps that part of the first post was misunderstood a bit, as we don't have plans to expand to any other games, but there are sites that host content for other games (like, for example, the Nexus sites that do Skyrim, Fallout 3, etc. content) that may have some good ideas about ways to do things. We didn't want to limit people to suggesting things only already out there for TS2/TS3 sites if they see a cool feature that works well somewhere else. :)

Tashiketh
13th Oct 2013, 8:00 PM
I agree - we're also hoping, one day, to set things up so you can view, for example, all sections apart from Lots & Housing, which will be awesome. It's a big job though, and probably a long way off, unfortunately.

Except this feature has been done for years. ;) You can turn off specific forums going all the way from top level categories down to individual subforums. See http://www.modthesims.info/subscription.php?do=downfsubs

gazania
13th Oct 2013, 8:45 PM
No-no's on the following items:

-- On a mutli-colored dress, for instance, no "Color 1, Color 2, Color 3" stuff. I might just want the blue color. Out of three items, it's no problem, but out of about 10 or 20 :rolleyes: .... I'm no fan of some of the fancier color names I see, but at least I can Google and find out what color "RaspberryBeret" is if I know the name of the original person who came up with the color names. ("RaspberryBeret" is NOT a real color. At least I hope not) I seem to have the luck of the draw; if I guess that I want Colors 3, 5 and 21, those will be the colors I don't want, or they're all in similar shades of red.

If the creator can't do that, for some reason, a swatch showing us what "Color 1", Color 2" etc. look like works equally as well.

-- This should never, never appear on a lot description: "I have all expansions. Use Clean Installer if you do not." Sorry. Doesn't work. Trying to find out which tiny detail on a house belongs to AL is a PITA, and sometimes, even that doesn't turn out OK. I know this from experience with a house on another site, back when I had only the first three EPs. The creator really did try to work with me to find out which item in the house caused the crashing, but we were both stumped.

Fortunately, I don't see that as much here.

-- If an item is an NPC, either the creator or a poster using the comments section should note that ASAP. No need to be snide. I have some NPC customs in my game, and I like them, though I know if I remove them, I will have to reset everything. But a new, naive downloader may not know this. MTS might want to post a warning on custom PT tech sets as well.

-- On another note, in our profiles on the new format, why aren't the SPs listed? Or am I missing something really obvious?

Can't think of much else now. I'll add as I think of stuff.

Miss Puff
13th Oct 2013, 8:53 PM
I'd really like to have a way to separate between favorites and things I've downloaded and things I want to download later, like a watch list. For things I've downloaded, I'd like to see the date I last downloaded it and the date that the post was last updated so I can easily see which mods I need to upgrade after a patch or which ones the mod author hasn't worked on in awhile and might have abandoned. Maybe whether or not it's a favorite can show on that same list, and only let you favorite something after you've downloaded it, or even only after a certain time has passed after you've downloaded it so you're encouraged to actually try the CC or mod in your game before deciding you like it. Seeing the last update time on the watch list would be good too, in case you don't want to download something until it's been updated.

Those are the first ideas that come to my mind, anyway!

Inge Jones
13th Oct 2013, 8:56 PM
yeah an update watcher of some sort would be useful. You can subscribe to the thread but then you get alerted when anyone posts not just the author.

DigitalSympathies
13th Oct 2013, 8:59 PM
I'm a creator but I don't post stuff here, so I'll just do it from the downloader's side.

Things that I'd want to see in a downloads site:

1) A standardised information sheet about every lot that's in bold and easy to see on the download page, including necessary info. I know this has been done but I'd like it to be more detailed and standardised.

2) The same goes for any download. I want be able to see a lot of different specifications on a form that EVERYBODY has to fill out, such as poly counts, age groups, mesh included (or where to find it), link to their policies, etc.

3) An icon, badge, or indicator that a creator takes requests. They could check this box (a prompt would be nice) and a little badge would go under their username or on their page. Also, little buttons to PM them would be nice.

4) It would be tailored to a widescreen monitor (of course), but with an easy-to-use layout in muted but contrasting colours. Blue on blue is great and the colour blue promotes thought, discussion, and creativity. Green on blue is very hard for me to see. Black fonts would be used - not grey - and in bold when necessary. TBH, just give us back the old look! I still use it, but it was much easier to find things and when I click a link from elsewhere that leads me back here, it reverts to the new layout. I can use the new layout, but it feels to stylised and flimsy and not as robust and "gets the job done" as the old one. I prefer function over form any day, and MTS has always been that site.

5) A better picture viewer and possibly an integrated video viewer on the downloads page, similar to the "classic" one we have (which is not that old).

6) The option to have all pictures load as a page does, instead of when you scroll. I have very fast internet and it is a pain when pictures sometimes refuse to load halfway down the page, or I'm scrolling and the page jitters as new pictures load.

7) Forum-like comments on downloads would make helping people with bugs a lot easier. If somebody is having problems, 8 agree's is better than eight similar (and uninformative) posts about the same problem.

8) An integrated (and completely private) chat system if your friended felllow users were online, complete with formatting (similar to chatango).

9) The ability to sort out content by year in a search.

Volvenom
13th Oct 2013, 9:49 PM
I don't usually download much here frankly, what i download is either from Luna with all her fabulous objects and different styles, or TSR with loads of good creators, even though I have to pay for it.

When I do download it's usually mods, and I know what I wanted. I just found out the other day Buzzler had changed the nick to ButtLaser. I search for member and Buzzler, but nothing turned up. Nice if you could let me find Buzzler even if he/she changed the name last year or something.

Peterskywalker!
13th Oct 2013, 11:01 PM
Not sure if this is already included, but what would be awesome is if there was a page where you could see recolors/modifications on modthsims that others made of the object you are about to download. For example if you want to download a piece of clothing, there would be a tab that would let you see recolors done by other people.

Another cool feature if it isn't already here would be to have the ability to search for lots and houses that do not have custom content, or that always have custom content

joandsarah77
13th Oct 2013, 11:06 PM
As a downloader I am very happy with most things.

>I would like a better the search feature. The other day I was looking for the mod that makes those base game lights flush with the ceiling. I know they are here but I ended up having better luck finding the link on Google than I did here! I even put the actual name into the search bar after I had found it and even that turned up no results.

>It would also be nice if large uploads had the items contained in a folder. For example you download a file for a dress and it has 20 different recolour files.

goldcherry
13th Oct 2013, 11:11 PM
The only things I can think of is improved search engine. It basically never works for me, but I don't know about anyone else. And if you can track what you've downloaded like TSR does, that'd be pretty nice too. ;)

joandsarah77
13th Oct 2013, 11:33 PM
You can track what you have downloaded goldcherry, it's up there under your user tools.

mustluvcatz
13th Oct 2013, 11:47 PM
Peterskywalker! - You can already see if a TS2 mesh has recolors here on MTS. Look to see if there's a tab, "Related Uploads". If it's there, you'll see recolors listed if any were ever done and posted here.

queeryme
14th Oct 2013, 12:48 AM
The quick download button would be really nice on the search results itself. It is would be easy for lazy people to download contents. Also, since some of the items require certain other items to make it work, like a Sim download requires a person to download from other sites its dress/slider content, there needs to be a way to instantly tell if the quick download will actually work instantly.

I always have that problem with downloading and give up halfway of finding the required files over the internet, especially for the old downloads since most of their links are broken.

spladoum
14th Oct 2013, 2:04 AM
The quick download button would be really nice on the search results itself. It is would be easy for lazy people to download contents.
Considering how often these same lazy people subsequently post in my threads about why such-and-such is the way it is, when I took the time to explain why such-and-such is the way it is and they didn't bother to read before downloading, I'm completely against this.

joandsarah77
14th Oct 2013, 2:53 AM
^ Completely agree with that^ Even though I haven't had that happen very much in my threads I like to read comments in general and so often I will see someone ask about a mesh or why is it this way and can it be converted etc, etc and I think didn't you read the description? Also lazy people are unlikely to see that a mesh is needed if they could download from the search results itself-and what about thanking the creator? How would that be done from a search thread- oh I forgot that 3/4 of the downloaders don't bother to do that!

AlfredAskew
14th Oct 2013, 4:11 AM
Just a couple little things: When I search, I never want the search to pull TS2 and TS3 at the same time. I can't remember exactly when this happens, but under certain conditions, it does. It's confusing. TS2 and TS3 are entirely different games, they should be differentiated.
I also feel like preview pictures have gotten smaller recently. My eyes are kind of going though, so maybe that's just me.

Otherwise I'm pretty happy here as a downloader, relatively speaking.

ijustneedsomeeyes
14th Oct 2013, 4:23 AM
I love this website, hands down. If I had put my uploads on my sim blog, I won't have anybody be able to download my stuff. I would say that most of the downloaders got to MTS, because they know that MTS is one of the few Sims communities out there that are still active and there's a greatly reduced chance of anything you download here blowing up in your face, because there's always the comments section. I love the comments section in every download, lets me know about any issues that might arise beforehand. There is also so much variety here that I find out new things, like: children can do static shock pranks!

Another thing I like about MTS is the Achievements system, because it helps creators go beyond recoloring and explore more options and learn new things, encouraging them to develop into well-rounded creators overall.

As for the thank system, yeah, some people don't. Personally, I've made sure to go back to everything I downloaded and thank each and every creator whose creations I liked. But there will be people out there who just download and don't give a second thought afterwards, I was one of them for a long time, but eventually, I went back and started faving and thanking. So if they liked your creation, they will usually come back after a while and press the button.

The only complaint I would have is that while the Community section is a bustling mecca, the Object Repair Workshop is mostly Tumbleweed Town. Creators eventually find out for themselves what to do by browsing old threads for hints and Googling, but this causes unnecessarily long delays on getting new goodies to the website. However, this is mostly on the onus of the Creators themselves after they find the answers: I think for everybody whose problems were solved and posted on OW, they should go back and post their solutions, so that future creators aren't left to fumble in the dark or give up.

Well, those were my 2. (There is no $0.02 in game, guys.)

Also, page claim.

ohgreatone22
14th Oct 2013, 4:27 AM
I would like there to be a "search by creators" option. Sometimes, I'm looking for something specific that I can't remember the name of, but I remember the creator, and i search for the creator, but the only things that come up are items with the creator's name in the title.

klapaucius
14th Oct 2013, 5:24 AM
I'd like to see some sort of Top Ten/Twenty Most Downloaded Items, either as a whole or within individual categories. I like seeing what other people are downloading, and it would be a good way of getting to see stuff you might not otherwise think of looking for. For example, I mostly DL houses, and rarely anything else - seeing that a lot of people liked a certain dress, or modification or whatever, would encourage me to go check it out.

FranH
14th Oct 2013, 5:55 AM
I would think that it would be a great idea if a member has a 'preference' for which type of downloads they usually get-either Sims 2 or Sims 3. I don't know of many who mix the two up (although I'm sure that there are a few), I'm only for Sims 2, and having to pick the game I'm downloading for is a bit tiresome.
Perhaps in the member's listing of what games they've purchased, to set the preferences by the user and embedded so that when they log in, their viewing is only for the game they've listed in their profile.

Niketas
14th Oct 2013, 7:39 AM
I agree with the filters, quick download, and problems with sims 2 and 3 items showing up in searches. Quite often, when I click download along the top bar, and use the search there, it brings sims 2 up first, maybe having a search sims 2, or search sims 3 button instead of just search. I know running a site is expensive, but I like how Nexus has seperate download sites for Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout, The Witcher etc, rather than having it all on one site, it's just a suggestion though. And if this was to happen, have them linked in away that you use the same account, also like Nexus.

Klaartje
14th Oct 2013, 7:58 AM
FranH and Niketas, most of what you have suggested already exists :) If you go to your user control panel (top right) and choose edit options, you can select which game shows up on default. I have selected TS3 and when I search for something by using the option from the top navigation bar, it shows only TS3 downloads. Also, the top nav bar has separate options for TS2, TS3 and all downloads, so I don't really see how this causes 'extra' clicks if you only download for one of the games.
ETA: just tried this now, but if I chose the categories from the top nav bar, they also show only TS3 by default :)

missroxor
14th Oct 2013, 8:02 AM
As a downloader, I really love MTS. I don't use a lot of CC these days compared to some but probably about 60-80% is from here. I love:

Pics are always big and clear and show what's on offer - they have to be to pass moderation
CC links are nearly always complete and working links of everything included
Minimal CC - There isn't usually a shopping list of a million things whenever you want to download an item
Never need to DL pay CC to use a DL from here.

Things I would love to see changing:
Thanks - While I disagree with the quick DL button, perhaps a quick thanks button for each upload on the download overview page would be useful and remind people to thank? Maybe it only shows if you've downloaded that item? Or maybe it shows on all DLs but is red (for example) if you've downloaded but not thanked an item. I wish for this as a downloader to remind me to do it and as a creator to remind others to do it to me :p
Hrm... I'll need to think on this some more because I have nothing else yet.

Volvenom
14th Oct 2013, 8:52 AM
I must say about a quick download button is something I do NOT need. People have to read what it says on the front page of a download. I'm lazy myself, one thing I don't like doing is cleaning up stuff I didn't want in the first place. What I like about mts is the information about the download is very easy to see and read. I actually learn new things by reading information on the download. On other site's the information about the download is in a small window, difficult to see or it's in a language I don't understand. Sometimes I have to go searching for it because it doesn't say.

HystericalParoxysm
14th Oct 2013, 9:32 AM
Volvenom - ButtLaser's been changed back to Buzzler. Occasionally the mods have a bit of fun by changing each other's names to something ridiculous. I can see how that'd be confusing but is never intended as a permanent change (well, except in the case of Whiterider becoming Nysha, but that was an actual real name change, not a joke name like when she was Buttsbuttsbutts for a while).

I swear we are actual grown-ass adults, not a bunch of 12 year olds, but BUTTS ARE FUNNY DAMMIT.

Tashiketh
14th Oct 2013, 9:42 AM
I'd really like to have a way to separate between favorites and things I've downloaded and things I want to download later, like a watch list. For things I've downloaded, I'd like to see the date I last downloaded it and the date that the post was last updated so I can easily see which mods I need to upgrade after a patch or which ones the mod author hasn't worked on in awhile and might have abandoned. Maybe whether or not it's a favorite can show on that same list, and only let you favorite something after you've downloaded it, or even only after a certain time has passed after you've downloaded it so you're encouraged to actually try the CC or mod in your game before deciding you like it. Seeing the last update time on the watch list would be good too, in case you don't want to download something until it's been updated.

Those are the first ideas that come to my mind, anyway!

The "My Downloads" view gives you basically what you want with regards what you've downloaded. Date you downloaded, date when it was last updated, and if you have thanked it.

Tashiketh
14th Oct 2013, 9:47 AM
I would like there to be a "search by creators" option. Sometimes, I'm looking for something specific that I can't remember the name of, but I remember the creator, and i search for the creator, but the only things that come up are items with the creator's name in the title.

This already exists. In the download filter box, there is option to search by creator name, which will list all of their uploads. Additionally, going to their profile and click the "All Downloads" button gets you the same thing.

Tashiketh
14th Oct 2013, 9:58 AM
4) It would be tailored to a widescreen monitor (of course), but with an easy-to-use layout in muted but contrasting colours. Blue on blue is great and the colour blue promotes thought, discussion, and creativity. Green on blue is very hard for me to see. Black fonts would be used - not grey - and in bold when necessary. TBH, just give us back the old look! I still use it, but it was much easier to find things and when I click a link from elsewhere that leads me back here, it reverts to the new layout. I can use the new layout, but it feels to stylised and flimsy and not as robust and "gets the job done" as the old one. I prefer function over form any day, and MTS has always been that site.

5) A better picture viewer and possibly an integrated video viewer on the downloads page, similar to the "classic" one we have (which is not that old).

6) The option to have all pictures load as a page does, instead of when you scroll. I have very fast internet and it is a pain when pictures sometimes refuse to load halfway down the page, or I'm scrolling and the page jitters as new pictures load.

7) Forum-like comments on downloads would make helping people with bugs a lot easier. If somebody is having problems, 8 agree's is better than eight similar (and uninformative) posts about the same problem.

8) An integrated (and completely private) chat system if your friended felllow users were online, complete with formatting (similar to chatango).

9) The ability to sort out content by year in a search.

4) The site already does work well on a widescreen, and I'm not sure what you mean about green on blue? The site is blue on blue by default. But you can change the colours if you like, using the theme generator. :)

5) Whats wrong with the picture viewer? It takes up as much space as it needs and supports keyboard controls and is less in your face than the older one. Why do you talk about videos here, though?

6) I'm fairly sure that the new theme doesn't lazy load images. Only the old theme (classic) does.

7) Well, an agree may not be better if the 8 people are having different issues. :) How do you know which is actually the main issue if you only get one persons response?

8) Probably not going to happen anytime soon. Sorry. :)

9) I'm curious - how would that be helpful? When would it be useful to see only content uploaded in, say, 2010?

Nysha
14th Oct 2013, 10:09 AM
Not sure if this is already included, but what would be awesome is if there was a page where you could see recolors/modifications on modthsims that others made of the object you are about to download. For example if you want to download a piece of clothing, there would be a tab that would let you see recolors done by other people.Click the 'Related Downloads' tab.

Another cool feature if it isn't already here would be to have the ability to search for lots and houses that do not have custom content, or that always have custom contentIn the filters on the downloads pages for lots, click Additional Parameters and then select No CC/Build CC only/BUild and Buy CC. We're working on redoing the filters so they're a bit more intuitive.

5) A better picture viewer and possibly an integrated video viewer on the downloads page, similar to the "classic" one we have (which is not that old).What d'you dislike about the bootstrap picture viewer? The youtube tag does work on forumview on bootstrap, but I haven't tried it on a download page - I'll try to remember to check that out.

6) The option to have all pictures load as a page does, instead of when you scroll. I have very fast internet and it is a pain when pictures sometimes refuse to load halfway down the page, or I'm scrolling and the page jitters as new pictures load.

7) Forum-like comments on downloads would make helping people with bugs a lot easier. If somebody is having problems, 8 agree's is better than eight similar (and uninformative) posts about the same problem.+1

9) The ability to sort out content by year in a search.Currently search results are sorted by year - does this not do what you want? Or are you wanting to exclude a particular year, say 2008, rather than wanting to not see all the pre-2007 stuff which has a much higher likelihood of being crap? :P

Buzzler had changed the nick to ButtLaser.Not by choice, in fairness to him. :D

>It would also be nice if large uploads had the items contained in a folder. For example you download a file for a dress and it has 20 different recolour files. D'you mean as opposed to creators uploading a separate .rar or .zip file for each item?

I also feel like preview pictures have gotten smaller recently. My eyes are kind of going though, so maybe that's just me.We've actually increased the maximum size for preview pictures recently. However, we did that because we made the box for preview pictures bigger, and a lot of creators haven't noticed that, so we're getting more old-size preview pictures looking kind of awash in a sea of big empty box. Maybe that's why they seem smaller?

I would like there to be a "search by creators"Click 'Show filters' on the search result page, and then enter the creator's name in the 'Search Creator Name' tab.

I would think that it would be a great idea if a member has a 'preference' for which type of downloads they usually get-either Sims 2 or Sims 3.Go User Tools -> User Control Panel -> Edit Options. Fifth option down.


Those people who've posts I haven't responded to, I'm not ignoring you - the point of this thread is to get idea which we will marinade in due course :p . I did want to provide answers for people who are looking for something that already exists, though. If you're one of those people and you think the feature should be labelled differently or located somewhere else, please say so!

*Warns Delphy for triple-posting*

NonaMena
14th Oct 2013, 10:17 AM
I've posted in the other thread as a creator, but I download a lot of stuff from MTS, so here I am posting here as well. My favorite part of the download aspect is that when I download a mod from MTS, I can generally easily tell which files the mod alters, when it was last updated, and which patch level(s) it's good for. For me, this is really important. I pay very close attention to what mods I put in my game. For my own mods, I always include this information even though I don't upload to MTS and I'm not required to. So, even though I've advocated for less stringent upload procedures/express uploads for experience creators, I want to stress that I do appreciate it that I can expect to get the information I need about mods from MTS.

Inge Jones
14th Oct 2013, 11:29 AM
Lol Nona and I contrast in regard to my slapdash attitude to uploading at my own site. Her presentation is always professional while mine tends to be "here's a file I've thrown onto the server. take it or leave it. you can find out what it is when you've got it" hehe.

joandsarah77
14th Oct 2013, 12:18 PM
D'you mean as opposed to creators uploading a separate .rar or .zip file for each item?

Sometimes, especially with clothes, there might be a lot of separate files to download or other times it's just one file but inside the Rar will be 10 recolours. When I download clothes from here I make a new folder, name it, extract in it and drag a large picture off the page into it.
Some creators on blogs upload a named folder inside their Rar and it has all the recolours, sometimes a credit read me and a thumbnail picture. I love those creators and always say a silent thank you for making my busy morning a little easier. If I download clothes off here I know I will have to spend more time on doing that myself. The one good thing I will say is the creators name is on the file and I can check my downloads and work it out if I put it in without doing a properly named folder with picture. I guess I'm being a bit lazy but I really do appreciate it when I find that step is already done. :)

Nouk
14th Oct 2013, 12:25 PM
yeah an update watcher of some sort would be useful. You can subscribe to the thread but then you get alerted when anyone posts not just the author.
Yep, and also if people have based a recolor or edit on the download in that post, that they are alerted to a change as well. Would be nice.
- Creator fixes a mistake? You find out what it is, and can make your own edits.
- Creator deletes their file after exploding in diva-rage and the file is nowhere to be found? You get alerted and update your thread with an alternative download for the file you based it on.

HystericalParoxysm
14th Oct 2013, 12:25 PM
I think that's more of a personal preference thing, joandsarah77... Because I personally can't stand when there's readmes and pics included and subfolders and stuff. I actually had Delphy make me a little program a while back that you could point it at a folder and it would collapse all the subfolders into the parent folder, and then I could just sort by file type and delete anything that wasn't a package or sims2pack.

joandsarah77
14th Oct 2013, 2:20 PM
Yes I've heard people say they prefer one way or the other so I know it's personal preference. Not that I'm asking for sub folders, just one folder.

mustluvcatz
14th Oct 2013, 2:44 PM
HP- that sounds like a mighty useful little program. Is that something that can be shared?

HystericalParoxysm
14th Oct 2013, 2:50 PM
It's a quick and dirty thing and I'd have to dig it out, but I'll ask him if he's willing to share. :)

heaven
14th Oct 2013, 4:34 PM
As a downloader, I really love MTS. I don't use a lot of CC these days compared to some but probably about 60-80% is from here. I love:

Pics are always big and clear and show what's on offer - they have to be to pass moderation
CC links are nearly always complete and working links of everything included
Minimal CC - There isn't usually a shopping list of a million things whenever you want to download an item
Never need to DL pay CC to use a DL from here.

I love a lot a things about MTS and it's why I always check here first. I'll quote missroxor on her love list. Especially the CC links. It's one of my absolute favorite things about downloading from here vs other sites. No hide and seek with content used, no million WCIFs in the comments thread.

SEARCH: However, I do have to agree that the search function, in general, is not as handy as I'd like. A lot of times, I can't remember a creator's full name or it's got an extra symbol or space than I am aware of and the search function won't pull it up at all. Couple of examples: lisen801. I always forget if it's an 8 or a 6 or something like that. What I'd like is for search to give me a list of creators that might match or a "sorry, no one here by that name. Did you mean ____?" suggestion. Tee Hee Hee is another one. I KNOW his name. But he has spaces in his name and if you forget those spaces, MTS doesn't pull up ANY matches. Or if you use underscores instead of spaces. You get the idea. Search function overall could be greatly improved. In the past, I've wanted to find something I KNOW exists on the site but search either pulls up nothing or everything under the sun that might possibly be related to what I want. I have, in the past, Googled what I wanted and gone from there when it pulled up the link rather than wading through search here.

FILTERING: I'm not sure how this gets decided exactly but, at least in TS3, there is some strange disconnect that goes on in the Build/Buy categories. I typically filter by function rather than room since that's how I also do it in the game. But some things don't show up under function categories. Sometimes certain things only appear in the parent category instead of filtered down. Like fences: Build Mode with fences typed in search - 22 items (http://modthesims.info/browse.php?tag=fence&go=Go&gs=2&f=380&gs=2) and Miscellaneous - Fences and Gates - 7 items (http://modthesims.info/browse.php?f=412&showType=1&gs=2&threadcategory=Fences%20and%20Gates). I imagine part of that is due to needing to select one section when you upload, like armiel's build set is under Build Mode Sets, but it would be useful in the fences too. So maybe adding an option in the uploader to have your item show in whatever categories it's relevant in.

Jaylo
14th Oct 2013, 7:28 PM
One thing I'd like is a mass download button. Lots of times creators will have a recolor for some object and each recolor will be its own desperate file which leaves you downloading 20 separate files and deciding halfway through you don't really need recolors xyz but later regret not downloading them.

So basically for downloads with a considerable amount of downloadable files a "download all" button would be really nice.

efolger997
14th Oct 2013, 11:03 PM
FILTERING: I'm not sure how this gets decided exactly but, at least in TS3, there is some strange disconnect that goes on in the Build/Buy categories. I typically filter by function rather than room since that's how I also do it in the game. But some things don't show up under function categories. Sometimes certain things only appear in the parent category instead of filtered down. Like fences: Build Mode with fences typed in search - 22 items (http://modthesims.info/browse.php?tag=fence&go=Go&gs=2&f=380&gs=2) and Miscellaneous - Fences and Gates - 7 items (http://modthesims.info/browse.php?f=412&showType=1&gs=2&threadcategory=Fences%20and%20Gates). I imagine part of that is due to needing to select one section when you upload, like armiel's build set is under Build Mode Sets, but it would be useful in the fences too. So maybe adding an option in the uploader to have your item show in whatever categories it's relevant in.

I forgot about the filtering! One thing that really annoys me is sometimes default replacement objects are in the mods section, but sometimes they're in the build or buy section! An example is height adjustment mods or ones that allow you to use CAST on objects you previously couldn't. I also agree with how sometimes things are only in 'dining room' section for example instead of the 'chair' or 'table' section.

christina4400164
14th Oct 2013, 11:22 PM
I like being able to choose whether I download a simspack or a package. I would love to have the option to click on instead of being stuck with one or the other. :Pint:

xkrazyxcourtneyx
15th Oct 2013, 12:23 AM
Filtering. It worked for me before the update, and now it doesn't. Not sure if that's just me, or a common problem. I don't use it TOO often, I mostly like to sift through everything. But sometimes I do log on in search of a specific item, and it was a helpful tool.

Gnostic Dreamer
15th Oct 2013, 12:42 PM
Not sure if this is a duplicate as I haven't read through all of the posts but would like to see updates to items for patches, etc. to be moved to the front page or some type of list showing updates to existing.

Clearing the search box after the initial search would be good as well. Sometimes I search a section with no results and then when try to return to the main downloads page, the search parameter is still in the box or when I go to the next section, even when I refresh the page...and sometimes even after I have manually cleared the search box. Granted it's been a while since I used the search option because of that so that may have been addressed...

Rocket Scion
16th Oct 2013, 1:18 AM
Really, this is the nicest site for downloading content I have found, but there are a few things that would make it easier.

- The new format is barely usable on dial-up. I use classic mode, but it still seems slower than before. An ideal website would have options to speed things up on dial-up, like smaller pictures, and turning off unusable features.

- When a off-site link is posted, it would be very helpful to post what website the file is hosted by, and how large it is. It is frustrating to follow a trail of links to megaupload, which doesn't work for me, or a huge file that would take 6 hours to download.

- Occasionally I get a Sim 3 file listed with Sims 2 files. This is probably an indexing error, but sometimes its not obvious that the file is for the wrong game.

Some other issues.

- Don't make it like Steam!

- Some websites, even relatively simple ones have serious issues caused by all the social networking sites trying to find it. I don't use the big offenders, and can't use them, but when they try to find my non-existent accounts, it slows things down worse. Please don't link to bunches of social networking sites.

- The Thanks button does work now on slow connections. It did not work well a couple of years ago. It is important that it works well and consistently if you want people to use it. I still have trouble remembering I can use it now. How many people would put up with clicking it, waiting 45-60 seconds for it to tell that it didn't take, and trying at least 5 times to get it to work?

Narsil
16th Oct 2013, 4:57 PM
I personally like this site, and I agree with better sorting. One of the best mod sites layout-wise are the Nexus mods, Such as Skyrim. Due to the large amount of mods they have a nice sorting system

RaggieSoft
16th Oct 2013, 6:43 PM
In my site profile, I'd like to list what Expansion/Stuff packs I own. If a Download isn't compatible (for example: maybe I don't have Into the Future on Day 1), I don't want the Download to show up in my search results

Ghost sdoj
16th Oct 2013, 10:20 PM
I can see that option in my profile... Go into Edit Profile, and scroll down to "Additional Information"

HystericalParoxysm
16th Oct 2013, 10:30 PM
Yup, and once you have that done, the default download filtering method is set to "compatible" so you only see things that are actually going to work with your game (as long as the creator has ticked the right boxes, of course). :)

Sparklypotato
17th Oct 2013, 12:18 AM
Volvenom - ButtLaser's been changed back to Buzzler. Occasionally the mods have a bit of fun by changing each other's names to something ridiculous. I can see how that'd be confusing but is never intended as a permanent change (well, except in the case of Whiterider becoming Nysha, but that was an actual real name change, not a joke name like when she was Buttsbuttsbutts for a while).

I swear we are actual grown-ass adults, not a bunch of 12 year olds, but BUTTS ARE FUNNY DAMMIT.

I never got my name changed back- but then I actually like Sparklypotato. I've pretty much got used to a starchy life.

Consort
17th Oct 2013, 12:39 AM
It would be nice to be able to just see the comments of people who have actually test-played a mod.

There are usually many comments saying things like "This is awesome, Can't wait to try it when I get home", "Does this work with Pets?" or just "Cool mod!".
Would be nice to flag a comment with a "review" tag and view just the reviews. The difference between "Cool mod!" and "I have played this for 2 weeks, cool mod!" is quite significant :)

Nysha
17th Oct 2013, 12:44 AM
We do have Thanks and Feedback posts, with the option to view just Feedback posts - but I suppose that would exclude people who've play-tested and found that everything is grand. Are you essentially looking at it from the point of view of highlighting any problems with a mod before you download it?

Consort
17th Oct 2013, 3:06 AM
@Nysha
Sort of. Users could do the quality testing that the queue process has little interest in for obvious (stated) reasons.

People having problems will probably post their comments as feedback posts,

"this broke my game and my mouse no longer works and my dog has fleas because of it"

What about encouraging people to write reviews if they choose to?

I have tested this mod for: 0 sim days
I find this mod: sucks
Problems encountered: yes, my dog has fleas now, mouse does not work
Comment: Do not download this mod if you have a mouse or a dog!!!!111

The commenter would probably not submit this comment in the form of a review but instead post a classical feedback.
When I browse reviews I can read that the user has not used the mod for long, so I ignore it in favor of other reviews.

Reviews could have the "agree|disagree|love|funny" thingy at the bottom and would be listed accordingly. Users could vote via click to enforce good reviews.

Just thinking :)

joandsarah77
17th Oct 2013, 5:24 AM
I think reviews could be good, but not by saying "This mod sucks" as half the time it's their own fault for not reading through the instructions. And even if it does suck, that isn't constructive.

ranabluu
17th Oct 2013, 10:53 AM
I would say overall there isn't much wrong with the way the downloads work now. A few tweeks would be nice.
1. I think an automatic thank you button would be nice for the creators because sometimes downloaders are just download happy and don't say thank you. I try to say thanks or post a comment to say thanks for sharing or thanks for the hard work. It's nice to know that you are appreciated.
2. I also like how MTS is on all of the files that I download it makes it easy to separate in my files because I download so much.
3. I would like to see something that says I have downloaded this file before, the only way I can tell is if I have clicked on the thank you button (that's usually how I can tell unless I forget to give thanks.) I read earlier in the post that someone said it shows already but I did not see it.
4. I don't think a quick download but would be good unless the creator isn't linking to another creator or a needed mesh from another site.
5. It would be nice if a creator is going to have 20 items to download if there were a default download all and the downloader should be able to sift through or download each item individually but if it's more than five items a download all should be there.
6. Not an issue that can be fixed by MTS staff but it does drive me crazy. When a creator "vanishes" and they have linked a mesh from a now defunct site and a downloader wants to use that creation it can be a pain hunting down the all needed items to use in the game. Maybe a defunct link checker could be conducted for creators that haven't been on the site in the while and a post or another note stating the link is dead or something to that would be nice. (I really hate looking for meshes it's a pain.)
7. Downloads that don't download because the server crashed and can't not be recovered ....ponders


That's all I can think of at the moment it's still early and I have to get back to reality. I just wanted to restate that for the most part downloading at this site is great not much hassle once the user has located the download it really easy a caveman could do it.

heaven
17th Oct 2013, 3:52 PM
3. I would like to see something that says I have downloaded this file before, the only way I can tell is if I have clicked on the thank you button (that's usually how I can tell unless I forget to give thanks.) I read earlier in the post that someone said it shows already but I did not see it.

I think someone mentioned it before but I can't find whether it was this thread or elsewhere so I'll just respond. :) If you go in the upper right hand corner, you have a button called My Links. In the drop down menu from that, you should select My Downloads. It will give you a table of all the downloads you have ever downloaded, along with when you downloaded, when it was last modified, and if you had thanked it, along with some other things. As far as I know though, there is no way to know if you downloaded something directly from the upload page itself.

Klaartje
17th Oct 2013, 4:07 PM
3. I would like to see something that says I have downloaded this file before, the only way I can tell is if I have clicked on the thank you button (that's usually how I can tell unless I forget to give thanks.) I read earlier in the post that someone said it shows already but I did not see it.

When you've downloaded something, the download button on the first page of the download should change into a check mark, at least that's what happens for me :) Even when I haven't thanked the download, when I go to the page it shows the check mark when it has been downloaded. I've added a screenshot in the spoiler :)
http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/51248_131017110329ScreenieDownloadCheck.jpg

/me runs of to thank mustluvcatz now... sorry!

Nysha
17th Oct 2013, 6:18 PM
Woah, I never noticed that. :o

Tashiketh
17th Oct 2013, 7:33 PM
It's only on Bootstrap though - not the classic themes. :)

Also, Klaartje, thanks for posting these and helping out with the questions! You deserve a heap of kruidnoten for that. :)

Nysha
17th Oct 2013, 7:44 PM
Is it kruidnoten season again? I'mma have to buy some next weekend, if so.

(Yaaaay look at me with my admin hat which lets me go randomly off-topic and no-one can hit me for it muahahahahaha)

HystericalParoxysm
17th Oct 2013, 7:50 PM
It -is-, Nysha. I have half a bag of dark chocolate dipped ones sitting on my desk right now. :D

Karen Lorraine
17th Oct 2013, 7:55 PM
I think you deserve them right now, HP. Enjoy :) (I know what they are cos I googled it)

Klaartje
17th Oct 2013, 8:20 PM
Also, Klaartje, thanks for posting these and helping out with the questions! You deserve a heap of kruidnoten for that. :)
Thanks Delphy, happy to help especially now that you are embracing the code, as they said in the other thread ;)
Have managed to ignore the kruidnoten so far, think I won't be succesful next time I go grocery shopping though!

ranabluu
18th Oct 2013, 2:09 AM
I think someone mentioned it before but I can't find whether it was this thread or elsewhere so I'll just respond. :) If you go in the upper right hand corner, you have a button called My Links. In the drop down menu from that, you should select My Downloads. It will give you a table of all the downloads you have ever downloaded, along with when you downloaded, when it was last modified, and if you had thanked it, along with some other things. As far as I know though, there is no way to know if you downloaded something directly from the upload page itself.


Thank you so much. I never noticed it. I also like the old format so maybe that's why I didn't pay attention to it. Thanks again.

Rikerbabe
18th Oct 2013, 9:11 PM
I use this site and TSR for my downloads and something I'd like to see would be by typing in the id number for example 538557 and the item would be displayed. TSR has that feature and imho it might be good here....

Ghost sdoj
19th Oct 2013, 3:25 AM
I wonder how many people here know the ID numbers that they might want to search for? It seems easier to search by name.

Tatatouille
20th Oct 2013, 2:58 AM
Love the site! Reading this thread, I have actually learned more about the site features than I knew before, so thanks!
The only problem I have come across is when I download certain things, like (Sims 2) hair for instance. A lot of times when I follow the link to the mesh, it is a broken link (Not necessarily a broken link to the page from MTS, but a broken link to the mesh from the original site, if that makes sense?) or the site is not there any more. And most sites require you to register with them before you can download. Personally I don't like registering at a bunch of sites, especially when I may only want one item/mesh from them.
I know that isn't a problem with MTS tho. I guess I just wish that the meshes could be included in the download (if the mesh is a free mesh).
Maybe creators could ask permission to include meshes? That would be my only suggestion.

Tatatouille
20th Oct 2013, 3:06 AM
A lot of times when I follow the link to the mesh, it is a broken link (Not necessarily a broken link to the page from MTS, but a broken link to the mesh from the original site, if that makes sense?)

Example... Like this one:
http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=366331
It needs the mesh, but when I click on it from the XM site, I get this:
http://hair100.sims2.xmsims.com/sims2/skins/hair/hair058/XMS_Flora_MeshHair085.zip

Or this one, where the links to the mesh lead no where :cry: :
http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=325656

CatOfEvilGenius
20th Oct 2013, 4:31 AM
A lot of times when I follow the link to the mesh, it is a broken link (Not necessarily a broken link to the page from MTS, but a broken link to the mesh from the original site, if that makes sense?)
Three things you can do.
1. Contact the MTS recolor creator and ask them to upload the mesh. They should still have it, and can probably post it if the original site is dead.
2. If the creator is gone, post in WCIF and ask if someone else can post the mesh. If they do, contact an admin and ask them if they might update the thread.
3. Google for the mesh. If it was on mediafire, it's probably still there, even if the site it came from is dead. Suppose you find a dead site, page no longer there. Get to it with the wayback machine (http://archive.org/web/). Then follow the link to the mesh, usually on the live web. Again, let a mod know you found the mesh and the link needs fixing.

Nobody likes broken links, but mods can't really patrol every thread all the time looking for them. It helps tremendously if someone can find the mesh and let the mods know the link is broken.

edit: Almost forgot....
4. Check Sims2graveyard (http://sims2graveyard.com/), and contribute what you can to it.

Inge Jones
20th Oct 2013, 9:13 AM
The only problem I have come across is when I download certain things, like (Sims 2) hair for instance. A lot of times when I follow the link to the mesh, it is a broken link

This gives me another new idea - and I am afraid one that would mean more work for Delphy - I wonder if some script could amble through the posts at some arbitrary cycle, testing links found in download posts to see if they are still alive, and flag up the thread if not? Perhaps also send a notice to the thread owner. I am only talking about download posts and tutorials, not their comments or social topics.

Tatatouille
20th Oct 2013, 7:22 PM
Nobody likes broken links, but mods can't really patrol every thread all the time looking for them. It helps tremendously if someone can find the mesh and let the mods know the link is broken.

Completely understandable, that would definitely be a ton of work. Those links are a huge help, thanks! Some of the recolor creators haven't been around for some time so I'll post links in the comment threads if I find any of the meshes I was looking for.

CatOfEvilGenius
20th Oct 2013, 8:10 PM
Completely understandable, that would definitely be a ton of work. Those links are a huge help, thanks! Some of the recolor creators haven't been around for some time so I'll post links in the comment threads if I find any of the meshes I was looking for.

Thanks, help is very much appreciated. :) However, please also post in Site Issues, so a moderator can update the thread with the correct link. Tell them which thread, and where the mesh is now.

Also, see Inge's post up a bit about an automatic link crawler that would look for dead links. If we get that, it would help creators (or mods if creators are gone) keep stuff updated. I envision the dead link crawler would look something like this bit from Monty Python, because I don't actually do site coding.

Bring out your dead!
http://parkinglotconfessional.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/monty-python-bring-out-your-dead.jpg

Tatatouille
20th Oct 2013, 8:43 PM
I wonder if some script could amble through the posts at some arbitrary cycle, testing links found in download posts to see if they are still alive, and flag up the thread if not?

Most links from MTS seem to work. They get you to the site you need but it is the links from those sites to the mesh itself that don't work. The biggest one I have had problems with is XM Sims.
(I just didn't want you doing a lot of work for nothing, as I said before, it's not really a MTS problem, more a problem getting to the actual meshes that are not included in downloads)

dreamfoil
22nd Oct 2013, 12:41 AM
My fave thing about MTS is it's high standards. It's what makes MTS better than other general CC upload sites. I like that MTS' mods have checked it out so I feel safe downloading.

The creator's thread has great suggestions, and I the ideas for loosening the reins on the upload queue sound great.

MTS gets alot of hate, but the other alternative heads in the direction of TSR, just without the money. Sure some crap falls through the cracks, but shit happens people make mistakes.

So, what I'm trying to say don't go too far trying to please everyone.

Chicken0895
22nd Oct 2013, 6:37 AM
I would love to see a thanks button on the my downloads page. It would enable me to thank everyone who's creations I've enjoyed without having to go to hundreds of different threads individually.

CatOfEvilGenius
23rd Oct 2013, 2:33 AM
Creators who change their names on MTS make it hard to find their old stuff. MTS has a great feature of putting "MTS_creatorname_" at the front of downloaded files. I had some capris made by HappySim I wanted to leave feedback about. HappySim is now Abbey12388. Had a bit of trouble finding the thread the capris were from (found it with search filters). To complicate matters, there is now another user named happysim, with no uploads, so for a while I wondered if HappySim had removed all her stuff.

Please keep the old creator's name in your database, and have the creator name search take people to the creator's page with their current name whether they type in the new name or old name. Don't let other people take the old name, this just leads to confusion. Maybe this would take too much coding to be worth it. If so, please just don't let creators change names.


I would love to see a thanks button on the my downloads page. It would enable me to thank everyone who's creations I've enjoyed without having to go to hundreds of different threads individually.
I appreciate the thought, as a creator, but why would you go to hundreds of threads??? Why not just click thanks when you download, if you feel like clicking thanks. You're not obligated to. The thanks button is not a second download counter. We creators love thanks, we really do, but it's not like you have to go hit it for every single thing you've ever downloaded. To me, the thanks button is a bit of personal interaction, and means someone liked my stuff that extra little bit so they hit thanks instead of just downloading. If you make thanks automatic, and make it thank several hundred things at once, it's rather impersonal, and as a creator, I don't really see the point of an impersonal 2nd download counter. It's the *personal interaction* of thanks and comments that creators like. I'm sure most of us are reasonable and will not get all huffy because someone didn't thank an upload they got five years ago. Also, a "thank everything I ever downloaded" button would have to keep track of what stuff you already thanked, or it would thank stuff multiple times. That's some complicated coding.

Lavelia
23rd Oct 2013, 7:59 AM
I love this site. Its one of the easiest to use in regards to downloading game content/mods/etc and I use it almost exclusively. The search feature could use a bit of work though. A few nights ago I was searching for stuff for The Sims 2 and it kept bringing in Sims 3 stuff, granted not all the time, but enough that I had to slow down a bit and make sure what I was getting was for TS2. I even checked to make sure I had it on Sims 2 just to be sure I wasn't botching it or had accidentally switched over with a distracted mouse click. I hadn't. So yeah, a bit of tweaking to the Search Engine would be very nice. Also adding a warning on the Sims 2 stuff when a link is dead or might be dead would be very nice. I spent at least an hour chasing dead links in my search for Male clothing (really hate the maxis stuff and had been putting off the search for a while) for my Simmies. I noticed that you had added a warning about missing content so adding another one about possible dead links probably wouldn't be overly difficult. Other than that this site is great as it is and you guys should keep up the good work!

weathervane
23rd Oct 2013, 2:56 PM
I love MTS, most of my CC comes from here.
These are suggestions in this thread I agree with, plus a few of my own:

- Better navigation, after reading this thread (and discovering a few things myself) I think the options hidden in my links and user tools should be made into a nav bar so people know it's there.
- better install instructions, I find it confusing that install instructions never has any instructions for the actual download, just general ones. Wouldn't it be better if instructions were written there, instead of in the description?
- better search, right now it is too strict and doesn't find stuff you find with google.
- better filters, a Buy Mode button in Sims 2 would be great!
- quick thanks button from My Downloads panel, because sometimes you just go on a spree and forget to hit the thanks button. I don't think it makes it less meaningful. I do sincerely want to thank the creators of the things i download, sometimes I thank stuff i don't even download/use, just because it's awesome!
- bookmark downloads, so you can come back to them later. Sometimes I use favorites for that, but favorites should really be special.
- update alerts/auto subscribe, for anything you download. Especially for mods that can make your game go boom.
- Downloaded button visible from the search results, because sometimes you just forget what you have. Make the Downloaded button more visible on the downlaod page itself, like next to the title. I didn't know it was there untill I read this thread...
- Report Broken button, so users can report missing/broken links/files. this would display warning box at the top of the page like "this download has been reported as broken, some of the links/files needed for it to work might be broken/missing". this would warn other users, as well as alert moderator and maybe prompt people to share files they have that are missing.
- Tag Box at the top of Description, I like to know at a glance what a download is about, what ages a hair is for, if a mesh is needed, if it's maxis match... When a description is too long/too short/has lots of images, the info in the tag box is actually very useful (especially with older uploads) and it's a shame it is now at the bottom of the page.

Ghost sdoj
23rd Oct 2013, 8:35 PM
Most downloads are installed the same way. Drop the package into a Sims 2 Downloads folder or the Sims 3 Mods/Packages folder. The general install instructions in the "Install Instructions" tab are perfectly adequate for them. If there are specific instructions, they need to be in the first tab that opens when you browse to the download to make it more likely that a downloader will read them. Is it more confusing to have special instructions in the description of a mod, or to have some downloads open to the install instructions tab?

Nysha
23rd Oct 2013, 9:46 PM
But what would happen if you ended up downloading two different versions of one item? Or if you downloaded, say, all four of fakepeeps' baby outfits without realising that they conflict with each other? Or if there were some special download/usage instructions that you didn't even know about because you just downloaded everything from the browser?

Funnily enough, this is a suggestion that's come up in the creators' thread as well, and most of the creators who've commented have said they wouldn't want that, because they already get too many complaints from downloaders who think their stuff is broken because they didn't read the instructions :p . I'd be interested to hear what an instruction non-reading downloader would say to that!

HystericalParoxysm
23rd Oct 2013, 9:47 PM
Adding a download-without-visiting-the-page option simply will not be added. Sorry, TotallySimsCrazy - but we ask uploaders to put information about their upload in the text of the post, and it's hard enough getting people to actually read what may be critical information without letting them skip it entirely. There's also no way to say "thanks" to the creator that way (no place to even put the button - while there's a blank space in "my idea" on your screenshot, that space fills up with EP icons on other uploads), and the amount of thanks that creators get is already really woefully low.

WakahisaDManami
23rd Oct 2013, 10:16 PM
I do second a 'thanks' button in the 'Downloaded Items' section. Not a mass thanks button, but the ability to thank individual threads. When I download from someone I haven't downloaded from before I want to check the object out in game before I thank it. Sometimes I'm lazy; sometimes I don't have much time and want to see if there's anything interesting before I open my game (it takes two hours to load the game and a family so I try to fit the loading times around something I have to do); sometimes I forget about the thanks button; sometimes I don't know whether I will use the content.
I don't know whether that's possible or not, but to me it sounds nifty and like something I would definitely use. There are many other great ideas in this thread and the creator's thread! I check them every time I open MTS because not only are they entertaining, but the ideas are good and I very much appreciate how open you moderators are to ideas and influence from the creators and downloaders.

Rikerbabe
24th Oct 2013, 4:52 AM
Love the site! Reading this thread, I have actually learned more about the site features than I knew before, so thanks!
The only problem I have come across is when I download certain things, like (Sims 2) hair for instance. A lot of times when I follow the link to the mesh, it is a broken link (Not necessarily a broken link to the page from MTS, but a broken link to the mesh from the original site, if that makes sense?) or the site is not there any more. And most sites require you to register with them before you can download. Personally I don't like registering at a bunch of sites, especially when I may only want one item/mesh from them.
I know that isn't a problem with MTS tho. I guess I just wish that the meshes could be included in the download (if the mesh is a free mesh).
Maybe creators could ask permission to include meshes? That would be my only suggestion.

I agree with you...I've come across so many beautiful clothes, houses, etc and want them for my sims BUT I've downloaded a few only to find that the mesh site is a dreaded 404 and the file or files can't be found on any other site.... :( :( :(

leefish
24th Oct 2013, 4:59 AM
@ladygonzo - if you find a post with a broken link to a site that no longer exists you can help us by posting in the WCIF forum explaining that the actual mesh of a certain upload is not available. A lot of simmers on this site have CC hoards that go back a very long time. If you are able to get that mesh then you can submit it to the graveyard and then post a report telling us the new link. We can then fix the link.

Regarding those sites that need registration; I do see your point but we cannot share things without the creators permission; in most cases if a mesh was shareable under the creator's TOU then it was included.

CatOfEvilGenius
24th Oct 2013, 5:43 AM
@ladygonzo - if you find a post with a broken link to a site that no longer exists you can help us (snip) post a report telling us the new link. We can then fix the link.
Post the thread with the broken link and the found link in Site Issues, right?

leefish
24th Oct 2013, 5:45 AM
Reports will work too, ie hitting the report button on the upload, but Site Issues is also fine. We just want the info :D

Dragonflysparkles
24th Oct 2013, 5:28 PM
Something like a download basket, or like a bookmark, wishlists, etc because whenever I open a page of something I want to download, I'd thought of it more than twice and the tab would stay there forever and I end up not downloading it. It always happen to me when I go on a download spree and there will be like 7643748 tabs and bookmarks on my browser because, that's probably just my habit not clicking the download button right away, and after we gather everything we want into the "basket", perhaps I can download everything at once? I know that is way too ambitious so never mind.

CatOfEvilGenius
24th Oct 2013, 5:49 PM
Something like a download basket, (snip) It always happen to me when I go on a download spree and there will be like 7643748 tabs and bookmarks on my browser (snip) perhaps I can download everything at once?
:lol: Oh yes, the eleventy million tabs and bookmarks! I know this well! Would like a "basket" feature, but am worried this might lead to spikes in downloading and maybe tax the servers. Probably a Delphy question.

Ghost sdoj
24th Oct 2013, 8:15 PM
I do second a 'thanks' button in the 'Downloaded Items' section. Not a mass thanks button, but the ability to thank individual threads. When I download from someone I haven't downloaded from before I want to check the object out in game before I thank it. Sometimes I'm lazy; sometimes I don't have much time and want to see if there's anything interesting before I open my game (it takes two hours to load the game and a family so I try to fit the loading times around something I have to do); sometimes I forget about the thanks button; sometimes I don't know whether I will use the content.
I don't know whether that's possible or not, but to me it sounds nifty and like something I would definitely use. There are many other great ideas in this thread and the creator's thread! I check them every time I open MTS because not only are they entertaining, but the ideas are good and I very much appreciate how open you moderators are to ideas and influence from the creators and downloaders.

Just a side note about Thanks... If you like the idea enough to look at it, and you are worried about forgetting to thank the creator after downloading it, there is nothing really wrong with thanking them for having a great idea and sharing it. Ok, yes, you may end up thanking someone for something you can't or won't use. But they still had and shared a good idea that you liked. You can thank them for the idea. :giggler:

Edit

Or am I the only one who has ever done that?

Inge Jones
24th Oct 2013, 8:17 PM
I sometimes thank people for uploading a lovely thing even if I know I don't have a place for it in my own game.

CatOfEvilGenius
24th Oct 2013, 8:27 PM
I sometimes thank people for uploading a lovely thing even if I know I don't have a place for it in my own game.
(snip) You can thank them for the idea. :giggler:
Or am I the only one who has ever done that?
Not just you, me too. Do it with Sims 3 stuff especially. I don't play Sims 3, but if I see an upload that is very interesting, lovely, or clever, it's a pleasure for me to read, so I thank the creator.

shokker66
25th Oct 2013, 2:25 AM
You know.. screw the filters. I should be able to come here and find new updates or mods that actually work with a specific version without giving me a headache. I should be able to visit and go straight to mods that have been updated or confirmed to work with the current patched version. With that said quite a few mods DO NOT say if they work with a certain version or not. YES, I know that many mods will work without updates. Many of us here do know this, but I do believe that the key to keeping and gaining more users is making it "Stupid Simple" for them to use and find what they need.
IF a mod DOES NOT work with the latest patch, just make it clear in the description.
I administered, built and maintained a very successful website for over 9 years. Making it simple and stupid for the user made things much simpler for me.
Just a suggestion.

Sk66

Chicken0895
27th Oct 2013, 10:01 PM
I'm still pushing for a thanks button next to each download on the "My Downloads" tread. I would love to thank all the creators who's creations I've downloaded, but that's over 120 creations, and frankly I don't have time to go though that many threads (again, as much as I would like to) individually. I know I'm not the only one with huge download sprees, so this would be very helpful.

joandsarah77
27th Oct 2013, 10:07 PM
^That would be a huge help^

barbarat
29th Oct 2013, 12:39 AM
I do not feel there is too much that needs to be changed. MTS is one of the easiest sites to navigate in and download from, especially since bootstrap. The search engine could use some tweaking though but know THAT particular arena is complex. As far as descriptions of the products. After reading so many posts in forums here and elsewhere it seems the more you document, the less that will be read. I feel sorry for creators and modders having to continuously respond to questions they clearly answered in their documentation. With regards to patch updates, it might be useful though if the mod owner had a separate thread listing their mods and indicating "UPDATED" or something of that nature.

And the Thank Yous... I have no problem clicking one button for each download, no matter how many. You've taken the time to create and share it...I can take a second to say thank you :)

CatOfEvilGenius
29th Oct 2013, 12:42 AM
The member name search is very helpful, but could use a tweak. If I search for "Shameless", I get a user named "shameless" when what I really wanted to find was a creator named "Shameless Plug". Please list all names that start with "shameless" or "Shameless" and/or let me narrow the search to creators only. I ask because I want to credit people for their stuff in my screenshots, and I don't always remembers to keep the link in a text file.

zenomia
30th Oct 2013, 9:05 AM
Upon seeing the Happy Thanks-Clicking thanks drive I decided to go back to my downloads and thank as many as I could. I think this process could be quicker if the My Downloads page ran smoother. Everytime I went to a download thread and thanked it and then went back to My Downloads page, it went back to the first page and reloaded again instead of going back to where I was. Is there any way to make it work like the download search page where when you go back from a thread you're viewing it goes back to the actual page you're on and not the start? I hope that makes sense :) Also is there a way to put a quick thanks button on this My Downloads page so, if like me, you have a lot of downloads you don't have to go back to every single upload thread to say thanks? These are my thoughts :)

Inge Jones
30th Oct 2013, 9:27 AM
Zenomia, try right-clicking on each listed download, and open in new tab. Thank, then close that tab and repeat with next.

Portokalia
30th Oct 2013, 4:00 PM
search and xheck: make sure that every now and then you check what is compatible with which patch and tag it, so there can be a search by patch. in the search bar (and not in the downloader's proofile.) so that there are no question of "does anyone know is this compatible with ..?" "is it safe?" etc. and if the uploader is inactive for long but his creation could or could not still be ok, then someone should bother testing it... :) and as I read above, yes, some obligatory fields when uploading, especially with mods.

Nysha
30th Oct 2013, 5:01 PM
Adding the ability to search or filter by patch version is a good idea, we'll consider that. :) Unfortunately, it's up to creators to test their mods for compatibility with new patches - if they choose not to do so, there's nothing much that we can do about that.

sweetavatar12
2nd Nov 2013, 7:21 PM
Currently, MTS is great. :gjob:

nimhat
9th Nov 2013, 3:31 AM
And, again I don't know whether it's just me, but sometimes when I've been searching I see something but possibly don't download it for whatever reason and when I go back to it it may not always be there? Maybe, that's not a website thing though but creators removing their stuff?

Would it be difficult to have a withdrawal system? I respect that creators are able to remove their content, but perhaps a notice that the download was removed... perhaps: withdrawn to alternate site; withdrawn and no longer offered, something like that?

Portokalia
12th Nov 2013, 12:10 AM
Adding the ability to search or filter by patch version is a good idea, we'll consider that. :) Unfortunately, it's up to creators to test their mods for compatibility with new patches - if they choose not to do so, there's nothing much that we can do about that.

i was hoping for something like the users giving a button-feedback ,not as a thank you or a comment, but more like, "works with patch.." so that the outdated and neglected downloads are clearer to us. Some of us will bother do the dirty work I'm sure, as long as there is this option!

jessim
13th Nov 2013, 4:24 AM
I would just like to see our search results toned down in :!: size :!: a bit (huge photos/description tiles :!!: ).

I do love the way I don't have to reload the entire page after I click a result to [for instance] switch back and forth between viewing the description vs. download link vs. comments.. :gjob: keep that.

I would also like to see some of the mods that are not compatible :wtf: with the newest patch put in a [separate] search area until verified to be working with the current patch. Perhaps make search results AUTO-ORGANIZED by date uploaded :new: , but then have other options besides that, something to help with relevancy for results.

Maybe knowing that their objects will become irrelevant :deal: will keep creators on top of things.

sweetpotatopie
17th Nov 2013, 9:36 AM
Put aside everything that MTS is now, and ignore entirely the way we do things at the moment.

Now, imagine the ultimate site for downloading custom content. How would it function? What features would it have? What would it feel like to use? Are there sites (not just for Sims, but for other games, or even just downloading in general) that already do things in a way that you like? Are there features and aspects we currently have that you think would work better if we just changed them in a certain way? Or things we do now that you think are wrongity wrong and should be thrown out?

Tell us what you think - even if it's complaints - as long as you're reasonably courteous. If you are someone who downloads custom content for TS2/TS3, we really want to hear from you! Small ideas, big ideas, and everything in between, we want to know your thoughts and feelings, so we can make MTS the best site it can be!

(And if you're a creator AND a downloader, please chime in on the other thread (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=513709) too!)

For me, it would be a shopping cart-esque interface that allows me to download everything in one click. This site works great outside of having to leave the description to click "files", but it's no biggie.

Nysha
17th Nov 2013, 12:23 PM
Hmm. D'you mean so you could queue up files from multiple downloads and then download them all at once? Or something else?

cpt_pierce
21st Nov 2013, 6:34 AM
The open formatting of the site, without closed edges and central compartments to focus your attention, makes it much harder to holistically search through download pages, and harder to figure out what you are looking at. It also apparently means that less information can be displayed on the screen at once, as there need to be extra white spaces between every element.

Concise and compact visual information with apparent grouping (i.e. the results are in one dark box, the navigation another) with easily accessible and visible navigation tools make a good download site.

gummilutt
27th Dec 2013, 3:35 PM
I would love to see a requirement for the Sim-section to provide a photo of the Sim with no CC.

HystericalParoxysm
28th Dec 2013, 12:11 PM
The problem with that is that many sims really do need that CC to look as they should, and the sim is intended to be used with CC. That's the "creator's vision" for the sim. I'm not super fond of, say, celeb sims that really don't look much like the celeb once you take off the skin/face detailing/etc., as they don't "breed true" but if they look okay with it, then, well, that's alright. As it is, we have a pretty hard time getting sim creators to include the very basic pics we require without adding more requirements. You are, of course, welcome to suggest it on uploads to creators though - i.e. "Hey, nice sim, though I'd love to see a pic added that shows what they look like without CC." But as a creator, it's not something I would do for my celeb sims, and for TS3 it may actually be impossible (removing custom sliders = broken sim face that looks nothing like intended).

gummilutt
4th Jan 2014, 7:14 PM
I think that's a matter of preference. I like to see what I get without all the nose masks and eye details that creators love to load on, because I'm not going to clutter my downloads with fifteen things used in one sim. In the end, having a CC-free image should not have any kind of negative effect on those wanting the CC, and it'd be very helpful to those of us out there that like to pick our own CC.

I hear you on Sims 3, sounds like it'd have to be a Sims 2 specific requirement. As for added work for creator, how hard is it really? To upload it you need to package it, so it ought to be in bodyshop. All you'd need to do is open it up, strip the CC and take a new screenshot.

leefish
4th Jan 2014, 7:38 PM
Well, to me it is optional. I would not be that keen to go out on the street without my "warpaint" so I don't see why my sims should. I think if the creator shows the upload no cc then that shows a confidence in their sculpt and they can choose to do so, just like you as downloader can choose to download.

Legislacerator
4th Jan 2014, 7:48 PM
I'd like to see a no-cc picture, for Sims 2 sims at least, "suggested but not required". So maybe it is suggested in the rubrics or guidelines but not having one won't get an upload rejected. For me, personally, when I download sims I tend to delete all the CC that they come with because I only download for the facial sculpts, not the content they come with.

Unrelated, but would it be possible to make the search results more "broad", I guess would be the right term? For example, if I search the downloads for the word "pose" I only get results with downloads that have the exact word "pose" in the title, and something like "poses" is excluded. Would be nice to get results of all downloads that contain the word somewhere in any part of the title, not just the exact word on its own.

gummilutt
7th Jan 2014, 8:24 PM
I respect that you two might not agree, but then again, I know I'm not the only one out there that thinks it'd be nice to see what you get without the CC, since I know I won't keep it. I figured it might be worth looking in to if it's something the downloaders want, since that's what this thread is about :) To me, the guidelines should be a way for creators to make their creations as appealing as possible, and this is a way to make Sims more interesting for a wider audience.

But I'll drop it. I've posted what I wanted, and either it happens or it doesn't :)

gummilutt
9th Feb 2014, 12:05 PM
I miss the old MTS. There are so many downloads now where I don't feel I get to see the thing properly, and end up just ignoring it because "Oh well, can barely see what it is".

I understand wanting to make it easier for people to upload, but MTS doesn't feel like MTS any more. Just my two cents.

And yes, I know that you can report downloads that are missing things, but every time I want to I (as requested) consult the creators guidelines first, and whatever it is I wish was included is no longer required, or is not as important.

Smthrs78877
6th Mar 2014, 5:54 PM
I am a downloader, but not a creator. I have watched the site for a while. There may be a few avenues that could stand a bit of spit and polish.
1. I hate the look and feel. Sims 3 is very modern and innovative, but when I step into this site, I just went back in time to 1993.
2. The design needs a lot of love and attention... use a WordPress template.
3. A cms like WordPress could fix everything and it runs on php just like this site, with databases bulit-in/easily connected
4. They have plenty of tested plug-ins for security
5. Just find a nice design layout and don't jack with it too much
6. 20% of the web is powered by WordPress, so give it a try

leefish
6th Mar 2014, 8:24 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4fBCZu8vgSM/UZGidRKvV_I/AAAAAAAAKr4/4h94YMWi3tc/s1600/umm.gif

Nysha
6th Mar 2014, 8:42 PM
Are you being paid by Wordpress? Because if so, they totally need to give you better training on what Wordpress is before they send you out into the world of sales.

Tashiketh
6th Mar 2014, 8:44 PM
Clearly you missed the fact that this site has a forum AND a wiki too? Also, using wordpress is, well, ridiculous. You know why "20%" of the web is powered by wordpress? Becuase people don't know better.

I highly recommend you actually take some time to, well, use this site, rather than suggesting we switch to Wordpress of all things. (also, secure? Bwahahahaha)

wendy jo
31st Mar 2014, 10:59 PM
I'm new to the site and personally i wouldn't change a thing i have no problems downloading from here etc.

somesimsay
2nd Apr 2014, 9:37 PM
I would like a website that has a good filtration system. This website, I think should have a 'Worlds' and 'Poses' category or something(Not in misc)
Maybe an indicator of what a download is patched up to?

Nysha
5th Apr 2014, 2:59 PM
Does our filtration system count as good? If not, what would you like to see changed about it?

Regarding making worlds and poses top-level categories rather than subcategories of Misc, I can see why that might make them easier to find. We won't move them now, but I'll file the suggestion away, and if we get other evidence that people are struggling to find those categories, we'll consider moving them up. :)

We do have patch info for the types of downloads where patch is crucial, i.e. worlds, lots and hacks. For other stuff, it's more difficult, since only a handful of patches have any impact on stuff like objects and CAS content, and usually the creators don't know what patch level their stuff requires or is compatible with. We could require creators to work it out and include that info when they're uploading, but I'm hesitant to add more rules for creators to abide by when the benefit for downloaders would be fairly minor.

Simdrew1993
4th Aug 2014, 8:54 PM
I know this is a few months late and I hate to revive a dead thread but this is a feature I strongly believe the community needs before downloading Sims 2 or Sims 3 content. I also think the site is doing pretty well with it's guidelines at the moment. And site features.


:report: Now what we simmers need most is an option so when people download something of ours on here it would pop up a notification blip that will ask them if they want to proceed with their download and advise them that some meshes are required for this download to function properly displaying all of the mesh required links waiting until they download each then once finished they can click proceed with download when they are ready. Skyrim Nexus does this before downloads that require an additional download to work so users know they are getting everything so they won't need to come back to that same page, I had no idea where to request this feature or even if I could on here but I think this would be a step up in the community though I have no idea how difficult this would be to code. I have several thousands of people that downloaded one of my Sims and they are not noticing the mesh's required tab when they download... I believe this would help greatly, I didn't really know where to request this or who to ask to at least share the idea. But how it would work is you'd log in, find something to download, and lets say this download will NOT work unless you download 3 additional mesh's, so a notification comes up and says warning this download will not work properly without all the required mesh's please download all mesh's first which will list all mesh's, then you'd click ok to proceed with your download.

Just an idea to consider :)

Volvenom
5th Aug 2014, 7:46 AM
I know this is a few months late and I hate to revive a dead thread but this is a feature I strongly believe the community needs before downloading Sims 2 or Sims 3 content. I also think the site is doing pretty well with it's guidelines at the moment. And site features.


:report: Now what we simmers need most is an option so when people download something of ours on here it would pop up a notification blip that will ask them if they want to proceed with their download and advise them that some meshes are required for this download to function properly displaying all of the mesh required links waiting until they download each then once finished they can click proceed with download when they are ready. Skyrim Nexus does this before downloads that require an additional download to work so users know they are getting everything so they won't need to come back to that same page, I had no idea where to request this feature or even if I could on here but I think this would be a step up in the community though I have no idea how difficult this would be to code. I have several thousands of people that downloaded one of my Sims and they are not noticing the mesh's required tab when they download... I believe this would help greatly, I didn't really know where to request this or who to ask to at least share the idea. But how it would work is you'd log in, find something to download, and lets say this download will NOT work unless you download 3 additional mesh's, so a notification comes up and says warning this download will not work properly without all the required mesh's please download all mesh's first which will list all mesh's, then you'd click ok to proceed with your download.

Just an idea to consider :)

That is already a requirement for the creator to do that. People need to READ what's in the text of the download before they download, I agree on that. As a creator I would like the downloader to read about all the needed things for one of my lots, take an educated decition as to what to download and then take the chance of it looking like hell. After all that's the downloaders decition and not mine. As a downloader I would be annoyed if I have read all the text on the download and still have to deal with a silly popup require me to download what I have already decided I didn't want.

Simdrew1993
6th Aug 2014, 1:52 AM
That is already a requirement for the creator to do that. People need to READ what's in the text of the download before they download, I agree on that. As a creator I would like the downloader to read about all the needed things for one of my lots, take an educated decition as to what to download and then take the chance of it looking like hell. After all that's the downloaders decition and not mine. As a downloader I would be annoyed if I have read all the text on the download and still have to deal with a silly popup require me to download what I have already decided I didn't want. Yes I agree, but a big problem nowadays is a majority of people don't read what's on the download page unfortunately I really wish they would but that is up to them some just want to download and play their game right away. This would be beneficial because this way all those people would no longer have too read all that text, many do but also many don't. It would be more of a safety protocol plus all you'd have to do it click proceed to download it would basically just tell them then give links to everything so that nothing mess's up for them they wouldn't have to click the links if they didn't want to but would still be given an option and be advised just in case. They could just click proceed with download. What I'm saying is this notification would tell them what is required. Everyone would be able to choose to ignore if they wished to and click proceed if they wanted to bypass it or if they already have these mesh's or perhaps if they just don't want to download these additional mesh's that are required then that'd be fine. It would help downloaders immensely some people need guidance. That is all, like I said it's just an idea. :anime:

Volvenom
6th Aug 2014, 10:46 AM
Yes I agree, but a big problem nowadays is a majority of people don't read what's on the download page unfortunately I really wish they would but that is up to them some just want to download and play their game right away. This would be beneficial because this way all those people would no longer have too read all that text, many do but also many don't. It would be more of a safety protocol plus all you'd have to do it click proceed to download it would basically just tell them then give links to everything so that nothing mess's up for them they wouldn't have to click the links if they didn't want to but would still be given an option and be advised just in case. They could just click proceed with download. What I'm saying is this notification would tell them what is required. Everyone would be able to choose to ignore if they wished to and click proceed if they wanted to bypass it or if they already have these mesh's or perhaps if they just don't want to download these additional mesh's that are required then that'd be fine. It would help downloaders immensely some people need guidance. That is all, like I said it's just an idea. :anime:

It's a learning process and I'm not that keen on reading all the little text always either, but I don't expect others to come down to my level. There is a lot of problem with this game and as a creator it can be a bit tireing sometimes. Like I post in my youtube video the link to the music and someone asks in the comments where I got the music from. Too many of those and I just ...

As I said it's a learning process, you learn after a while that it pays to read. It can be very critical on things like mods, where you end up with a crashed game and what the heck has this stupid mod done now? Just to read and find out it's your own fault. Away from the fact that some hates popups with a passion, it will soon end up being a pillow. If the popup doesn't tell you about it, it can't be that important.

I like taking shortcuts, and I know many other's do as well, and after a while I learn how to clean up the mess after me. I fortunate though, I don't need to worry about a 7 generation legacy going corrupted.

joandsarah77
6th Aug 2014, 11:02 AM
I agree, I think people can read. Most creators underline, bold or otherwise try and draw the downloader's attention to anything important that they need for the item to work correctly. If you are grabbing a mod you should also skim over the comments and read the read me as well. It does pay to read. People also have a habit of clicking off pop-ups without reading anyway.

Volvenom
6th Aug 2014, 11:07 AM
People also have a habit of clicking off pop-ups without reading anyway.

Oh yes, and that is even more annoying! Did you read the popup you silly noob!! It's so annoying sitting at the grocery register and there's no sigaret ticket coming for the customer, just to see it says on the comp It's empty. I clicked on a popup and don't even remember seeing any :lol:

It could possibly be something for new downloaders though, but still they need to read the text ... but possibly just a list of the most important things?

Simdrew1993
7th Aug 2014, 5:26 AM
Oh I agree with you 100% Volvenom! I read everything myself always, but this feature wouldn't be for myself. Knowledge is power indeed. But a large quantity of people don't see it the way we do. And that's fine if you both don't agree with the idea. I just wanted to get it out there just in case a mod would I suppose.

I wouldn't want it to be like a popup not like Google plus, and Youtube yuck! Or anything irritating. That would simply drive a person crazy, I'd want it to just to be like a notification a simple warning about the download and mesh's that are required but only on download pages that actually need additional mesh's on ones that don't then you'd see no such thing just standard downloading. It wouldn't be something that'd be annoying it instead it'd be to help people, and joandsarah77 you make a valid point about this which makes me second guess myself, thinking maybe this idea wouldn't work too well....But I'm not sure, because then again it may be for the greater good. My idea was that they wouldn't be able to exit after it pops up unless they hit cancel or click off of the notification a couple times on their download, go back, or hit proceed with download. I just think people should be advised before they forget or choose not to read everything. Many don't these days. It's sad really. But yes learning is the best thing I agree but not everyone is going to feel that way like we do. The reason I'm requesting such a feature is because I've had countless people use my Sims and some have messaged me in the past saying something was wrong, asking questions like why don't they show up properly, the hair doesn't work, the cape doesn't work, the crown mesh doesn't work. Then I ask did you download the mesh's some respond with a simple uh no, others respond saying a what? Then I have to explain what a mesh is and to download a file(s). I never mind it when I help people because I want everyone to have what the need to play their games correctly and enjoy my work but there are also those that do blame me for their own simple mistake thinking maybe I didn't pack the sim up correctly, many choose to blame others before they notice their own simple mistakes when downloading, not all though many have also figured it out. I leave it in Bold print to download mesh's if you want the full results but to no avail.

I just think this would help simmers that have this problem like I do. I see pictures of my sims all over that look weird and I found out many of these people forgot to download the mesh's that are needed so they blame the work instead of themselves for not downloading a simple mesh not all of them though. Many have also figured out oh wait I missed something, it doesn't matter though I still help them regardless. Maybe I'm over thinking this I mean I can't control it if many don't choose to read the fine bold print right? And sadly yes it probably would be closed out but if the notification looked serious enough maybe they'd listen to it and download the mesh's. Bold text isn't doing justice for me now. So I don't know.... You know how at some grocery stores they sell soda pop and there is sometimes pictures that say Don't forget the ice! This is that....sorta lol ;)

broke54
9th Aug 2014, 8:16 PM
Put aside everything that MTS is now, and ignore entirely the way we do things at the moment.

(And if you're a creator AND a downloader, please chime in on the other thread (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=513709) too!)
1. format of download always the same.
2. no ads and no music
3. ability to download with or without custom content. (if possible)
4. if download has been updated, old objects removed and an alert put somewhere (like front page?) to notify people who downloaded the object to redownload.
5. dead links for custom content removed.
6. keep it simple. like descriptions of what the object or download is for, and where is should be installed. I love this site. cam