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Charisa1114
17th Jul 2008, 9:08 PM
I recently decided to try out the Sims 2 Store Edition. For those of you who do not know the store edition is only available online and i believe it is only available for US or Canadian residents. It is just basically a stuff pack. It allows you to download 6 objects for free and then you have to pay to download anything else. I decided to try it to get the 6 free objects, but they weren't that great anyway. You can find much better stuff for free here. :)

Anyway while I had the Store Edition installed I created a couple of objects. The one I created and uploaded. People who did not have the store edition were having problems with their game crashing due to my object. I uninstalled the store edition and had the same problem with my game crashing due to my created object. Once I recreated the object without the store edition installed and ran it in Free Time it worked fine.

I'm not sure exactly what happened, but somehow the Store edition was messing up SimPE and objects would not work without the Store Edition installed. There is no option in SimPE that I know of to turn off the Store Edition stuff.

Just wanted to warn anyone who was thinking of trying out the store edition that anything you make with it installed might not work.

Inge Jones
17th Jul 2008, 9:31 PM
Yes, SimPE has not been updated for Store Edition, so caution is advised. And if European people can't use it, then SimPE is unlikely to be successfully updated for it, as all SimPE developers live in Europe. Store Edition has received a huge thumbs-down from me.

Rapsheba555
19th Jul 2008, 1:58 PM
It sounds like another way for maxis to make money. That's all. Total crap.

Inge Jones
19th Jul 2008, 2:55 PM
I don't begrudge them making money - they're a business. But I get fed up that they didn't put the framework for all their development in place from the start, so that modding tools and mods didn't keep having to be redesigned to prevent them breaking the game.

Rapsheba555
20th Jul 2008, 2:05 PM
yeah, I understand they're supposed to make money, but this seems to be taking it a little too far. I mean, this IS the best selling computer game of all time (they beat the sims 1), not like they really need to make money that desperately. But, anyway, no i'm not miffed they're making money, I'm miffed the WAY they're making money.

chimodo
25th Jul 2008, 7:21 PM
Well I hate the fact that they're now forcing people to download objects "one at a time" If you think about it. It would probably cost a LOT more money to download all of the objects that come in a stuff pack, rather than if you went out and just bought it.
I really don't understand why they're doing this, other than seeing them as being greedy for money. They have the "exchange" on The Sims 2 site, in which there are some nice objects, yet it seems that they still seem to try to force people to buy stuff. Obviously if they can post up free items, then the Sims 2 Store is nothing but a complete joke.
I really wish that they would stop looking at sites like Peggy sims or any other "donation" sites, and look more at sites like MTS2, or any other good free site like that. I think it's ok to ask for donations, but if someone has to pay to get "free" content, then it's never really free.
And with all of the securom crap, it's not a wonder that Sims 2 is suddenly becoming more of a hassle and just a pain to play at times.
I can't say I'm proud of it, but I downloaded a couple of the Sims 2 packs, because it didn't seem worth it to pay when I knew I wasn't going to use half the stuff in it, and when there really wasn't that many new objects in it to begin with. I'm between jobs and going back to college, so I try save money on every turn. I'll probably end up buying all the stuff packs down the road anyways.
A lot of people who "hack" the games, usually just do it because it's more convenient to run them without cd's. I think what EA should focus on, is putting out their own versions of "no-cd hacks" that come with their game. If they can manage to use securom in normal games, then why not just do it without the cd? I'm sure it can be done.
But all in all, that's my little rant. I love EA for the games they give us, and I'm starting to very much dislike them for the money hungry pigs they're turning out to be.

ranger135xp
2nd Aug 2008, 12:42 AM
well chimodo, no-cd cracks are not likely to be made by any manufacturing company because they break their copyright check. The reason the game checks for the CD is because it finds a particular file on that CD which (if found) gives the game the "OK" to run.

This is implemented so that you cannot install TS2 on ur computer, and then install it on a friend's computer. With a no-cd crack, you both could play at the same time;but with the current system, only one of you can play at a time (whoever has the CD).

instead of a no-crack exe that could contain a virus, you could copy all the files from the play disc to your desktop. from there, copy one file at a time to a CD-RW but testing the CD with between each and every one to see if it launches the game. When you find the file the game looks for, burn it onto mini CD-Rs to create cheap little play discs.

With that method, if you find the file that any other games look for, you can even put those on that CD as well if there is space and instantly create yourself a multi-game CD!

Pixelhate
2nd Aug 2008, 7:01 PM
Warning ! Maybe not the good place to discuss that subject. Or the wrong subject for this good place...

HystericalParoxysm
2nd Aug 2008, 7:21 PM
No discussion of no-CD cracks or any other method to circumvent using the disk to run the game, please. It is a violation of site rules to discuss that stuff here.

princessJessica
12th Aug 2008, 6:29 PM
you can actually download most of the sims games via ea.com obviously you have to pay for them, and they're not as cheap as what they sell for in the shops, however, there is no inconvenience of having to run a cd each and everytime. all you need is to install ea download manager(which it downloads for you(first purchase)). i think you get like a year or so, to re download, just incase you have to reinstall.

ive used this for most of my expansion packs now, and the best part is i can download them as soon as a new expansion pack comes out!! no more having to find time to go to my local games store! i can do it all from the comfort(or not so comfy) computer chair!

so stop doing naughty things! if running a cd is really that much of a problem...do this instead :) can't help on the money situatuation though! :)

princessJessica
12th Aug 2008, 6:44 PM
as for the store edition...well! i thought id download it... just to see if it was any good! but now i'm regretting that! as it was downloading it came back with an error, so i thought...nah can't be botherd, so just left it..but now each and everytime i turn on my comp, it comes up with an auto installer!!! i thought it must have downloaded, so once again i thought i'd give it a try. but it wont install (probably because of the incomplete download). once again i cancelled it, but now i can't get rid of it! it's really annoying me! i've searched my computer high and low, but i can't find it! and i really dont want to uninstall ea download manager(which i assume it is linked to, by looking at the sims 2 site) cause thats where i have loads of sims expansion packs downloaded to, and i don't want to loose them!

so yeah i'm a little peeved at ea! they have a fab game, but it isn't half messy! ive bought most of the games twice! cause my old computer wouldn't install after reinstalling, and ea advised me to repurchase..however this did not fix the problem.. so me being a little sad, went out and spent loads on a new computer. But that is another story so i won't bore you.... :cry: i just hope i can fix this auto installer problem, cause it's rather annoying!

FifthAce2007
13th Aug 2008, 12:25 PM
There is another option that EA have failed to explore, along with all the Game Manufacturers...

They could implement a system, where the user has the option of, if they Internet, to 'verify' their game installation/Product key, and have a small file generated for them to download and add to their game files, so that the game will run minus the CD/DVD. It could easily be 'coded' to the unique hardware ID for the machine, which changes each time the OS is installed.

TGTSoft used a similar method for their skinning programs for windows XP.

This would also mean that the online versions of the games don't need to be changed, they can be identical to the versions bought from stores. This would eliminate the issues described in the opening post.

giantsquid2000
17th Aug 2008, 4:46 PM
I stumbled across the Sims 2 Store Edition and unwittingly installed the software (I'm still kicking myself in the head!). I was attempting to modify a Maxis mesh by extracting it through SimPE. The bone assignments were all screwy! I also get a warning every time I open SimPE now. After reading this thread, it appears as though the update for the Sims 2 Store Edition will not be coming out any time soon.

My question is would installing another expansion pack or stuff pack snap SimPE back to normal? Or do I have to uninstall the Sims 2 Store Edition to make everything happy again?

Thanks for any assistance.

<<o~~ GS

Charisa1114
18th Aug 2008, 8:46 PM
I just uninstalled the Store edition and the Maxis downloader thing and my stuff works fine again. You just won't be able to use any of the stuff that you got from the store.

giantsquid2000
19th Aug 2008, 8:34 PM
Thanks for the reply. I failed to backup my files before installing the Sims 2 Store Edition, however. I'll see what I can salvage before de-installation.

Thanks again.

GS

lucky_d
25th Oct 2008, 12:41 PM
as for the store edition...well! i thought id download it... just to see if it was any good! but now i'm regretting that! as it was downloading it came back with an error, so i thought...nah can't be botherd, so just left it..but now each and everytime i turn on my comp, it comes up with an auto installer!!! i thought it must have downloaded, so once again i thought i'd give it a try. but it wont install (probably because of the incomplete download). once again i cancelled it, but now i can't get rid of it! it's really annoying me! i've searched my computer high and low, but i can't find it! and i really dont want to uninstall ea download manager(which i assume it is linked to, by looking at the sims 2 site) cause thats where i have loads of sims expansion packs downloaded to, and i don't want to loose them!


I am having this same problem. I signed up to get the free downloads then all of a sudden it started to "install Sims 2 Store Edition". It advised me to quit the installation and back up my Sims 2 game before continuing. I wasn't expecting an EP-style download, just thought I was registering to download the individual items from the website. Well, I cancelled the installation and went on about my business playing my Sims regularly. Now, I have it coming up every time I start up my computer wanting to install Sims 2 Store Edition.

The funny thing is, I was able to go to the website just fine and download the free items (lame as they were). I don't even think you need this "Sims 2 Store Edition" thing to be installed to download the items.

I thought the Sims 2 Store was a website with items on it, not a program for my computer.

Charisa1114
26th Oct 2008, 7:39 PM
I am having this same problem. I signed up to get the free downloads then all of a sudden it started to "install Sims 2 Store Edition". It advised me to quit the installation and back up my Sims 2 game before continuing. I wasn't expecting an EP-style download, just thought I was registering to download the individual items from the website. Well, I cancelled the installation and went on about my business playing my Sims regularly. Now, I have it coming up every time I start up my computer wanting to install Sims 2 Store Edition.

The funny thing is, I was able to go to the website just fine and download the free items (lame as they were). I don't even think you need this "Sims 2 Store Edition" thing to be installed to download the items.

I thought the Sims 2 Store was a website with items on it, not a program for my computer.

Yeah, they promise you free stuff, but there are strings attached. The free stuff I downloaded wouldn't show up for me without the Store edition installed. Like I said in my original post, you can find much better stuff here and it is always free. You want more than the free items on there and you have to pay for them. I had nothing but problems with it installed too.

Numenor
26th Oct 2008, 11:05 PM
Charisa (and everyone interested), about the SE objects that are not visible any more when uninstalling SE, I think that just installing SE you gained the right to download and use the free objects; therefore, for personal use, you can open the object with SimPE, select the OBJD, and set both the "Valid EP Flags" to zero, thus removing the requirement for SE.

Charisa1114
1st Nov 2008, 2:03 AM
Interesting. I had never thought of that. I didn't think any of them were that great anyway, so for me it's not really worth the hassle of reinstalling it to get them again.

ohmydanielle
8th Nov 2008, 3:11 AM
okay. so i have the same problem. but i uninstalled and removed the sims2 store edition and everything dealing wiht it from my start list. Yet it says i need the sims2 store...[ect] to play. And im fustrated!.Grrr. [x
But yeah. Does anyone know how i can fix this crap?! :O

Numenor
8th Nov 2008, 5:54 PM
If you are a little experienced with the Windows registry, you should check if you still have the key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/EA Games/The Sims 2 SE

If you still have it, delete it.

ohmydanielle
8th Nov 2008, 8:46 PM
but even then, i looked up all those things on my pc, and yet it still says that o need to play the sims2 store edition instead.
does anyone know what the rodlem might be? :|

Numenor
8th Nov 2008, 11:08 PM
It seems like it was not uninstalled correctly (also because you said that you have manually removed references to Store Edition from the Start menu: if the Store Edition would have been correctly uninstalled, then all the references in the Start Menu should have been deleted automatically...).

Perhaps you should install it again, and then remove it again.

J. M. Pescado
9th Nov 2008, 12:21 AM
Anyway while I had the Store Edition installed I created a couple of objects. The one I created and uploaded. People who did not have the store edition were having problems with their game crashing due to my object. I uninstalled the store edition and had the same problem with my game crashing due to my created object. Once I recreated the object without the store edition installed and ran it in Free Time it worked fine.I strongly suspect this is caused more by incompatible OBJD/TTAB formats than it is by the Store Edition itself. If you run a game version newer than Store Edition, it should not crash. However, if the Store Edition enables the 0x8D OBJD format, and you are using 0x8Ds, older games will fall down and go boom.

Verify that you are not using an 0x8D OBJD version or 0x5X TTABs in pre-Pets games.

fernandez1985
9th Nov 2008, 12:34 AM
I have had nothing but problems with the Sims Store since I downloaded it. Objects I bought went missing, my game would crash...it just wasn't worth it.

jamiesmith123
18th Jan 2009, 5:49 PM
the only advantage that i can find with store edition is that you dont need the cd
however even then its not that good because my simpe wont run

joshy959
20th Jan 2009, 11:45 AM
you can actually download most of the sims games via ea.com obviously you have to pay for them, and they're not as cheap as what they sell for in the shops, however, there is no inconvenience of having to run a cd each and everytime. all you need is to install ea download manager(which it downloads for you(first purchase)). i think you get like a year or so, to re download, just incase you have to reinstall.

ive used this for most of my expansion packs now, and the best part is i can download them as soon as a new expansion pack comes out!! no more having to find time to go to my local games store! i can do it all from the comfort(or not so comfy) computer chair!

so stop doing naughty things! if running a cd is really that much of a problem...do this instead :) can't help on the money situatuation though! :)
I think in Australia, you can download ALL the games.

joshy959
20th Jan 2009, 11:46 AM
the only advantage that i can find with store edition is that you dont need the cd
however even then its not that good because my simpe wont run
LUL suck! I dont do that stuff. Only EA download manager game downloading. Not pay for furni.

fluttereyes
24th Feb 2009, 10:38 AM
I downloaded store edition to get the free stuff promised. Uhm, nope, people in the UK, seemingly, can't get the free stuff and can't buy from the store either. I wrote to them and asked why I couldn't download the free stuff. I've got every EP for the game and it hasn't been cheap to buy them. I got a reply saying they can't sell stuff by download to the UK. My reply was "well you managed to sell me all those expansion packs". I didn't get a reply back.

It seems all the free stuff is for folks in Canada and the US only. Very unfair, the rest of the world pay just as much for the games as US gamers.

Don't usually join in the rants but there you go, just adding my tuppence worth, lol

Inge Jones
24th Feb 2009, 11:08 AM
I got a reply saying they can't sell stuff by download to the UK.

So they could show some goodwill by allowing the UK players to download at least the free stuff. It's not just downloadable stuff the US has stopped selling to the UK. I used to buy various physical things from America, but they won't sell to a UK customer at all any more. I don't actually know whether it is a US or a UK law to blame.

I am wondering if it started when UK began to reject US beef when there was the mad cow disease. I know the President started muttering some sort of trade warning over that. Or was it the other way round...

J. M. Pescado
24th Feb 2009, 11:21 AM
You're on the Internet. If you REALLY want to ACTUALLY SPEND MONEY, there's no reason you have to admit to anything that is disadvantageous to you. It's not like anything is being shipped to you, so you can claim to be anywhere that gives you the most advantages. It's not as if truth hasn't always been what is most personally beneficial.

Numenor
24th Feb 2009, 5:39 PM
just adding my tuppence worth, lol
How delightfully British :) If you hadn't told you live in the UK, I had guessed it anyway :P -

It's not a UK law to blame, imho, because they clearly state on the download page that they can only sell to US and Canada; I don't think that all the other countries in the whole world signed an agreement against EA or the USA :lol:

BTW, Italian users can't buy Store stuff, nor download the Store Edition program; but - as Pescado said - you can claim to be American (how do you think I got my Store Edition? ;) ).
If, during the registration, you are asked for a ZIP code, use the most reknown ZIP code in the world: Beverly Hills 90210 :lol:

Inge Jones
24th Feb 2009, 5:50 PM
What really teed me off is the process let me get as far as downloading and installing the SE software and download manager and choosing the content I wanted to buy, and only gave me the bad news after I entered all my payment details.

Numenor
25th Feb 2009, 1:23 AM
I never entered any payment details, I entirely skipped the credits purchase phase (yes, the "skip" button is very very tiny :lol: ), so I jumped directly to the page where I discovered that only US and Canada users were allowed :P -

fluttereyes
25th Feb 2009, 4:58 AM
So they could show some goodwill by allowing the UK players to download at least the free stuff. It's not just downloadable stuff the US has stopped selling to the UK. I used to buy various physical things from America, but they won't sell to a UK customer at all any more. I don't actually know whether it is a US or a UK law to blame.

I am wondering if it started when UK began to reject US beef when there was the mad cow disease. I know the President started muttering some sort of trade warning over that. Or was it the other way round...

That's what I said, in fact I put it a bit stronger. I said that if they could sell me the games online with the download manager then why not the free stuff? I also asked them why people in the US and Canada were getting more for their money than us. For some strange reason they didn't reply to that :rolleyes:

What really teed me off is the process let me get as far as downloading and installing the SE software and download manager and choosing the content I wanted to buy, and only gave me the bad news after I entered all my payment details.

Yep, me too. Thing is my game is destroyed now and they just won't help me at all. I deleted store and nothing would work. I uninstalled everything and started all over installing in the order they came. I even went into the reg and made sure it was all gone. I have a good backup of my gameplay for when I ever get it back up and running.

When I got to pets, I started to get an error message from runtime saying the product had asked to be closed in an exceptional way. I checked this out and dotnet can cause that so i removed that too and have unindstalled and re installed pets three times tonight. No luck, I think I'm doomed. No point going to their site as it's the blind leading the blind half the time, gpot no replies there at all and tech support just say to reinstall :!:

How delightfully British :) If you hadn't told you live in the UK, I had guessed it anyway :P -

It's not a UK law to blame, imho, because they clearly state on the download page that they can only sell to US and Canada; I don't think that all the other countries in the whole world signed an agreement against EA or the USA :lol:

BTW, Italian users can't buy Store stuff, nor download the Store Edition program; but - as Pescado said - you can claim to be American (how do you think I got my Store Edition? ;) ).
If, during the registration, you are asked for a ZIP code, use the most reknown ZIP code in the world: Beverly Hills 90210 :lol:

Ugh! I'm Scottish, lol

Never thought of using a fake zip code, have lots of friends in the US who could have given me one too. Lets se if I can sort my tech problems with them first or I might not have a game to play, with or without free stuff. :blink:

You're on the Internet. If you REALLY want to ACTUALLY SPEND MONEY, there's no reason you have to admit to anything that is disadvantageous to you. It's not like anything is being shipped to you, so you can claim to be anywhere that gives you the most advantages. It's not as if truth hasn't always been what is most personally beneficial.

But we didn't know till after entering the details, had we been warned then we could have lied

Ok I have an update on the store edition fiasco. I just couldn't get pets to instal after my complete uninstal and reinstal, please see posts above to find out more.

I checked my download manager from EA and lo and behold pets was installed after Store Edition initially. I did an experiment and reinstalled Store edition and there we have it. I installed pets and it's all up and running, no problems at all. It's took me since 6pm last night to 5.20am now to sort this.

My question is? Please give me info if you can. Can someone who has all the expansion packs but NOT the store edition tell me if the guy with the computer comes to everyone's houses and gives them a free computer? I think people who have seen this will get what I'm thinking right away.

how can I make that spelling mistake on so many words there, I need to sleep now.

Numenor
25th Feb 2009, 8:48 AM
JaneyW, please don't post 6 replies in a row :)

Ugh! I'm Scottish, lol
I said "British" (and not "English") as opposite to U.S. :) Americans would "trow their two cents" rather than "add their tuppence" :lol:
I've been to Scotland last summer, and still remember the disgusted face of a woman while handing me - as change after a purchase - a banknote with the Queen's image :rofl:

As for your last question, "Mr. Humble" is not related to Store Edition; it's a terribly annoying character introduced with Freetime.
And about the order of the expansions, when reinstalling, you should definitely follow the right order:
Base, UNI, NL, OFB, FFS, GLS, PETS, SSN, CEL, H&M, BV, TSS, (STORE), FT, K&B, IKEA, AL, M&G.

J. M. Pescado
25th Feb 2009, 11:04 AM
It's not a UK law to blame, imho, because they clearly state on the download page that they can only sell to US and Canada; I don't think that all the other countries in the whole world signed an agreement against EA or the USA :lol:See, the warned you in advance. Never admit to anything that won't help you...or anything they don't actually need to know! Remember: NEED TO KNOW ONLY. If they're not shipping you anything, they don't need a name, an address, nothing. In fact, resist giving anything on the Internet, or anywhere else, any information. If pressed, make something up! The only thing they can do is continue to refuse you.

If, during the registration, you are asked for a ZIP code, use the most reknown ZIP code in the world: Beverly Hills 90210 :lol:Hah, I always do that, too.

fluttereyes
25th Feb 2009, 11:34 AM
sorry about the multiple posts, I'm a new posted here having lurked for a while.

Well it does say they can only sel to the US and canada, but the issue I had was that they were able to sell me 8 expansion and stuff packs via the download manager, yet I couldn't get the free stuff, lol.

Thanks so much for your advice on the install, I did do it in order and they are now all installed and working, just copying the back up files over now.

I would like to add that this is the friendliest forum for simming that I've come across and let you know how much we appreciate the ability to come and get advice from you all.

kronos9116
26th Oct 2011, 4:05 PM
Store Edition made several of my more important Mods stop working! I had to completely uninstall and reinstall my game with out Store Edition to get them working again!

Mootilda
26th Oct 2011, 4:15 PM
Store Edition made several of my more important Mods stop working! I had to completely uninstall and reinstall my game with out Store Edition to get them working again!The Store Edition uses the Mansion and Garden game engine. Were you using mods which were compatible with that engine?

Installing any EP is likely to break mods which are not compatible with that EP. The Store Edition is no different.

DutchXfan
16th Dec 2011, 10:27 PM
I've been using the Store Edition for years now (I live in the Netherlands, so it's available for Europe) and don't have any problems with anything I download/make as long as I keep the compatibility with other EP's and SP's in mind. Just like Mootilda said.

MaAlet
6th Apr 2015, 4:00 PM
Is Store Edition obsolete now?

maybesomethingdunno
7th Apr 2015, 1:03 AM
Is Store Edition obsolete now?

Yes. EA closed the TS2 Sim Store.